So has anyone made HOT SAUCE yet?

[Zudelvar]

Suggestion

Helloo there :>

I posted on one of the Brodder post, and figured I might here too. Has anyone tried the possibility of lava rock/earthen temper? I figure it might be the 'hot' or 'pepper' of the recipe. Maybe put in a kiln with acid or whatever. Just a new poster trying to think outside the box. :>

[Maevenniia]

Ok, let's look at the first 'poem', that deals with Hotsauce

A small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath

Habanero Pepper fits this description soooooo well, but if we accept that this recipe pre-dated PoP, we need to find something else that fits.

Ogre's favorite juice to capture it's death

Most lean towards Vinegar, but could also be Ogre Swill itself


One list called for veggies, another for fruit

One each of fruit and veggie ?

But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot

If this refers back to the 1st sentence, does it mean that the “small fruit as fierce as a dragon’s breath” is a mob drop (loot) only?

And does “a dwarf could capture best” mean that it is a drop in a dwarf-dominated zone? Or do the dragon references push us towards Sol (Naggy’s lair), Perma (Vox's lair) or towards Velious zones (Western Wastes, ToV) ?

What about those jewels from The Hole? .Fiery Jewel of the Underfoot? Heart of Brell’s Minion?


By mixing a bit of both, with the dragon's fruit

1 veggie + 1 fruit + vinegar/ogre’s swill + unknown ‘fiery loot’ ? + salt (see below) + cask?


Foam of sea captured and caked.

Mug of Seafoam, ‘caked’ or dried in an oven (or a kiln?)
Or Bag of Sea Salts (already dried, comes from the sea)


Would in a cask be baked

is the cask used in a subcombine to bake the sea foam into salt, or used in the final combine?

Aged by a brewer...
decanted into bottles many and small

cask of hot sauce + poison vial(s)? other vial/bottle? in a brew barrel = vial of hot sauce?

For a few drops, is a wondrous cure all...
For with that fire, all other aches will seem fewer...

curative properties on its own or as part of Brodder's Revenge...

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The stumbling block is the "fiery loot / small fruit fierce as dragon's breath" that "a dwarf could capture best"

Flame of vox = dragon breath BUT what does that have to do with dwarves capturing it best?

ARGH.......my head hurts.

[Diviine]

i have no clue on the background of this recipe or what its used for. But reading the info given

"Ogre's favorite juice to capture it's death "

anyone tried embalming fluid?...


Just an idea from a moron

[Tudani]

Originally posted by Maevenniia
Ok, let's look at the first 'poem', that deals with Hotsauce

A small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath

Habanero Pepper fits this description soooooo well, but if we accept that this recipe pre-dated PoP, we need to find something else that fits.

I see the dragon's breath more as a comparison not to be taken literally. Just some sort of fruit that has a really fierce/spicy/hot flavor.

One list called for veggies, another for fruit
But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot
By mixing a bit of both, with the dragon's fruit

One each of fruit and veggie ?

(note: reorganized a bit to make my meaning clearer)
I read these three lines together. There's two recipies, one that uses vegies, and one fruit. But the dwarf makes it better by using both in the recipe. So again, I read the fiery loot as flavor/rhyme text. So the recipe we're looking for needs both fruit, veggies, and dragon's fruit.

I'm thinking something on the lines of fruit + veggies + "dragon's fruit" + ogre's liquid in a mixing bowl

Then result + sea foam/sea salt + cask in an oven

Then result combined in a brew barrel maybe (just by itself to age it?)

Then result + bottles of some sort (maybe with some sort of tool like a funnel or something to poor it into the bottles?) = hot sauce

And I also see hot sauce as a component for Brodder's revenge.

edit: Also if we're going as a possibly luclin recipe the two most likely canidates for dragon's fruit imho are "ripened yellow starfruit" and "flarefire seeds" with probably the fruit most likely. Star = hot fiery burning gases so could very well be a hot fruit.

[Lushissx]

quote "But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot"


What gem do dwarf clerics imbue? Is it ruby? Thats fiery red. Wasnt there something about only dwarf and gnomes being involved? They are the only ones who can imbue ruby's with their clerics?

[Gishi]

Might be a stretch.. but there is a lake of sorts in North ToV with Fiery drakes all around it. I'm not a 100% sure if they drop scales but I believe I remembered that they did.

As for dragon fruit.. what about drake eggs?

[Galain]

NM

[Judanu]

A small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath

What about a Prickly Pear? I seem to remember seeing those drop in Permafrost Keep many moons ago, as well as in SolB.

[Wandazula]

prickly pear was going to be my suggestion too


the thing that bugs me is that hot sauce itself (RL) isn't a complicated recipe. It doesn't even SOUND like a complicated recipe (from the name alone)

I hope this hot sauce is appropriately named !!!

[Wandazula]

I like the combining with dwarven imbued gem idea.... what about coldain heater too? /shrug

[Dyllwin]

Ahh the English Language...so many ways to say something wrong.

A small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath
Ogre's favorite juice to capture it's death
One list called for veggies, another for fruit
But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot

By mixing a bit of both, with the dragon's fruit

The first line stands on it's own, as seen at the end of the last line I quoted which references it by iteself.

The 2nd line stands on it's own as well, again indicated in the last line quoted as being part of the "both" mentioned.

The 3rd and 4th lines are actually 1 line, the but is a conjunction, it connects independant phrases....The 3rd line references 2 items, but the 4th line tells us a Dwarf can best make these 2 items into 1 item. The reason I say 1 item is the reference in the last line which says "By mixing a bit of both", which references the Ogre's favorite juice as well as the item from the last two lines together.

So what we get is the following:

1st ingredient - A small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath
2nd ingredient - Ogre's favorite juice to capture it's death
3rd ingredient - One list called for veggies, another for fruit But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot

Now the question you need to ask yourself is, what can a dwarf do best? What is it they can supposedly do better than other races that has to do with both vegetables and fruit? I can tell ya it isn't baking

How this all ties in with Sea Salt/Mug of Sea Foam I'm not sure just yet, and who knows what the small bottles are (though my bet is on poison vials), but this first part has been mixed around so much that you're all chasing your tails. Find the "dragon's fruit" and find the thing dwarves make from veggies and fruit and we will have a large part of this.

[Quichon]

Here's my take on it:

A small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath
possibly the peppers, although we may need to look elsewhere as well since it was a PoP item.

Ogre's favorite juice to capture it's death
Vinigar. it's been referenced in Brodder's Diaries that Ogres always use Vinigar for some reason.

One list called for veggies, another for fruit
How about this... first line calls for fruit, try veggies here?

But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot
still thinking about this one. Keep in mind that dwarves do not forage whatsoever (no dwarven rangers or druids) so it isn't going to be anything that is only found by foraging.

By mixing a bit of both, with the dragon's fruit
calls for a subcombine with 'dragon's fruit', vinigar, and veggies(?). confirms that there is a subcombine and it has total of three ingredients. also, probably mixed in a mixing bowl. May need dairy spoon, but if it's as hot as they suggest you may not be able to use the spoon since it's gonna melt. Make sure to use FR gear to do this subcombine.

Foam of sea captured and caked.
capture seafoam and dry it out, you get sea salt, which comes in cakes. you don't get 'a mug of seafoam' in a cake, it's in a mug.

WOuld in a cask be baked
combine result from subcombine with seasalt and cask in oven.

Aged by a brewer...
decanted into bottles many and small...
For a few drops, is a wondrous cure all...
For with that fire, all other aches will seem fewer...

possible combine in brew barrel with the product and a number of containers. Bottles are too big for this stuff, and will probably melt anyways. Try poison vials. I get 'em from the mill when I need to make Wu's armor (that and a pearl goes to an enchie to make the vial of mana I need to get the armor just right). They're small and supposed to handle toxic stuff. So mabye that product and a number of poison vials in a brew barrel.

On the second recipie... I'm far less certain. It did espically mention gnomes, and moss covered scale is found in steamfont where gnomes run about. Also, isn't there a lake around steamfont somewhere? And being steamy would indicate hot as well. Are there any drakes in Steamfont? Possibly red ones? Rare spices, I'm lost one still. There's so many possibilities right now that the mind is still boggling on it. The Garlic stuff seems pretty obvious to me. Mix the three ingrerdients (scale, spice, and garlic) in a mixing bowl with spoon. Sounds like chile powder to me. Keep in mind this one has subcombines as well. Powdered scale would be one or more scales plus one or more 'wine' in mortar and pestile and rare spices may be a subcombine as well.

Just my two cents

[casikoto]

In my opinion.. what a dwarf does best is make ale. Actually what they do better than making ale is drinking it. And checking the recipies.. i only found one that has vegetables and fruit in it. So i think that a bottle of kalish is part of that recipie.

[Zudelvar]

Dwarves do best

Helloo there :>

Well, I would say the Firey loot is probally the alcohol that was hinted at in the first limerick. Dwarves do have an alcohol beverage named after them, Dwarven ale, and also have the mushroom farm there in kaladum. Just more food for thought. :>

[YurienStonebow]

flarefire seeds are nodrop. had a guildie forage some for me.

i think the recipe is set up like this

dragon fruit veggie vinegar
dragon fruit vinegar fruit

then possibly mix the result togeter with the sea foam/salt and a cask