So has anyone made HOT SAUCE yet?

[QuteCleric]

Other than real world applications, there is no real reason to belive distilled vinegar is in game and used in a recipe, EQ often simplifies recipes greatly so i wouldn't assume it actually exists, thanks for the tries tho, they go on our ever-growing "doesn't work" list lol

Trezark, don't give up! It will be found Just have to perservere!

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[Quichon]

WHOA.... we're going way off course here...

Brodder made this, which means it has to be made by a dwarf.

This means several things:

1) HE CAN'T FORAGE!!! Which means if it's foraged only, it's not it. Unless the devs decided it would be fun to do something like that, which might be possible but for now I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

2) Ogre's Favorite Juice = VINEGAR. Brodder mentioned it himself in his diaries, in fact there are probably more references to his diaries we haven't come up with yet, I think it's time to hit the books. Fortunatly, theres a dwarven merchant outside of Kaladim that sells all of them (sans vol 2 of course) written in common so we don't have to go track down a gnome to translate it for us.

3) This was written around the time SoL was being born. This means no LoY, no LDoN, and no PoP. The peppers are a great idea, it fits perfectly, but the recipie has been around since before PoP. Heck, I have been searching for it since before PoP, so it had to have been around then. You can keep trying them if you really want to, but I doubt they are it.

4) foam of sea captured and caked = Sea Salt. You take sea water, you capture it, and dry it out, you get sea salt. A mug of sea foam is not caked. Of course, you might want to try a mug of sea foam plus something else in an oven or forge to see if you can dry it out yourself. Mabye baked in a pie tin or something to make it into a cake to differnciate it between that and a bag of sea salt. On second thought... it says caked, mabye a cake round?

So what we are looking for is:

1) small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath:
I've never heard of Naggy's Chille before this thread, I can't find it in the database. Ingredient is probably found there.

2) Vinegar.

3) something that could be mistaken for a fruit or a veggie that can be found by a non-forager with dwarven factions (i.e. has to be dropped by something a dwarf would drop or sold by a merchant a dwarf would buy from).

that makes the subcombine. Possibly take 2 and 3 to make a subcombine which goes with 1 as another 'final' subcombine for this stage.

take that subcombine, the sea salt (or cake of sea salt), and a cask to an oven and bake it.

That is my uneducated guess based purley on my interpretation of what Brodder has said and what my tired brain has managed to spit out this time. I make no claims of accuracy due to a severe case of sobriety and lack of sleep due to hitting way too many books as it is.

[QuteCleric]

1) small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath:
I've never heard of Naggy's Chille before this thread, I can't find it in the database. Ingredient is probably found there.

As far as I can tell the only thing that would make the chile "spicy" was:

Nagafen's Lava Spice Packet

which doesn't really clear anything up if we were to base it on that, if anything the hot sauce would be used in the chile, it really boils down to, what small fruit is being discussed? It was already previously agreed that the ogre's juice was more than likely vinegar, the foam sea salt, etc, but we are back down to the main problem, what is the >main< ingredient

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[Kenamena]

While the recipie has been there, its possible the item was not added until later. It doesnt always make sense. Look at Wood Elf Cultural items - they require Acrylia. Makes no sense, but yet it's there.

It's hard to say if they added the recipie and then realized the peppers werent in and then added them later. Not saying this is the case, just dont know if we can rule it out so easily.

I TOTALLY agree that VINEGAR is the item in reference to the Ogre Juice. His diaries refers to it so much and asks what is up with ogres and vinegar.

As for the Sea Salt - not sure if I am on board here. There is actually very little salt content in sea foam. More than likely, the caked part refers to the over all combine or the fact it has been packed into a mug for Mug of Seafoam.

[Crowly]

Has anyone thought of the fruit (small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath) being referred to here as grapes? Probably a SWAG, but, eh...

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[Tinile]

don't discount habanero peppers due to expansion. there was a post by brodder somewhere in this mess saying to not discount them. you can do the search.

[Spirish]

Can someone tell me where these refernces come from? I'd like to read them.

Thanks
Spi

[QuteCleric]

Most of what we are working on hre comes from Brodder's Poem on page 3 of this very thread, other stuff usually comes from the Brewing section of the message boards scattered on a few threads, most noteably the ones about Lewena's drink and Brodder's Revenge

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[Naeadiene Needsamap]

Distilled Vinegar

Distilled Vinegar is plain old white vinegar. I don't think we need to do anything special with that one. (but I'm often wrong hehe)

[QuteCleric]

I am officially away from an EQ capable computer for the holiday weekend, that means I'll be spending most of my time in regards to EQ here and doing some deep digging on this subject, hopefully I can find some stuff that hasn't been thought of before but that actually makes sense (i.e., i DONT mean "well, let's seeeeee malt + crow meat + kunzark koi = hot sauce!!")... we're missing something obvious here will keep everyone posted as to my progess

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[Slippyblade]

Nah, that can't be it... I think the closest we have to Crow Meat would be Blood Raven Parts.

[YurienStonebow]

ok i've been checking all the various hot sauce bottles while i'm uot eating at the resturants and the common ingredients are vinegar, the peppar, salt, and maybe ne other ingredient. ahs anyone tried using saltpeter? i know it isn't wxactly salt but i don't know if its tradeskill tagged or not. one other thing......has nobody looted dragonfruit from kunark yet?

[QuteCleric]

Brodder said specifically not to take his dragon reference too literally, and I do not belive dragon fruit exists in game as a noticeable form in any way...

Saltpeter is tradeskilled flagged as it's used in a few tinkering recipes, I doubt that it is used in this for various reasons:
1.) It's not actually salt anyone in any of their right minds would want to consume
2.) Same reason as I doubt Habanero peppers(but don't rule them out), it was added in PoP and solely in Plane of Innovation

Bloody raven parts is what i meant, just couldn't think of them at the time, and it wasn't important so just said crow(i hate those things ><)

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[Darknyss]

With a tear in my eye
a small bottle I did decry
Red and fierce it had to be
for it to finish this recipe

A small fruit as fierce as a dragon's breath
Ogre's favorite juice to capture it's death
One list called for veggies, another for fruit
But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot

By mixing a bit of both, with the dragon's fruit
Foam of sea captured and caked.
WOuld in a cask be baked

Aged by a brewer...
decanted into bottles many and small...
For a few drops, is a wondrous cure all...
For with that fire, all other aches will seem fewer...

few points I'd like to throw out there...

The first paragraph... don't discount the idea that it may require a bottle (a small bottlelike a poison vial) or something that looks like a red bottle (like Flame of Vox)

In my opinion (although don't take it too solidly) from reading the paragraph.. .the recipe sounds something like this...

In oven combine:
Ogre Favorite Juice + Dwarven-Captured Fiery Loot + Dragon's Fruit + Foam of Sea Captured and caked + Cask

However, it may require the use of bottles or some brewed ingredients in this combine, or a later combine.

My simple recipe idea:
Vinegar + ??? + ???+ Sea Salt or Mug of Sea Foam + Cask

The trick is coming up with the Dwarven-captured fiery loot that is neither a veggie, and neither a fruit... and the best place to find something that dwarves would need to be hot would be in the Coldain village...
The other trick is the fruit that is as fiery as a Dragon's breath... now... Habanero peppers are certainly hot... and also seem like an odd forage for the Plane of Knowledge.... Only 2 plausible reasons I could see them not being in the Plane of Fire...

1) they wanted the recipes that used them to be accessible to non-Fire flagged people

2) they were not working correctly in previous expansions

explanation number 2 could be the reason why this is such an old undiscovered recipe, and items are used in numerous recipes, so just because they're in PoP and used in Slarghilug Stuffed Poppers doesn't mean we should discount them... Brodder said the same thing in this thread...

The last thing I'd like to point out is that these recipes were "discussed" with the Dev team, and therefore, we do not know how exact this poem is... any slip between the people in charge of what drops what and where things are found could cause a huge rift in the recipe... we just need to be consistent... WE CAN DO IT!!!

[QuteCleric]

The problem is again,

But a dwarf could capture best the firey loot

By mixing a bit of both, with the dragon's fruit

For sake of poetry, it seems that the "firey loot" is, actually, the hot sauce itself, seems just like flavor text to me...

The first paragraph also seems like flavor text, saying that the hot sauce is so hot it made him cry... I also considered possible use of onions, but have yet to explore that option....

"a small bottle I did decry" just seems to say he cried quite a bit from this recipe

*shrug* just my opinion of course, but it seems to me that if you read firey loot as the hot sauce itself it's basically a 4 or 5 ingredient combine:

"dragon" fruit
vinegar/ogre fluid
fruit or veggie or both or one that represents both
foam of sea capture and caked --> sea salt? or something similar

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