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  • #61
    phy·lac·ter·y ( P ) Pronunciation Key (f-lkt-r)
    n. pl. phy·lac·ter·ies

    1. Judaism. Either of two small leather boxes, each containing strips of parchment inscribed with quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures, one of which is strapped to the forehead and the other to the left arm; traditionally worn by Jewish men during morning worship, except on the Sabbath and holidays.
    2.
    1. An amulet.
    2. A reminder.


    [Middle English filaterie, philacterie, from Old French filatiere, from Late Latin phylactrium, from Greek phulaktrion, guard's post, safeguard, phylactery, from phulaktr, guard, from phulax, phulak-.]

    Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
    Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
    Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

    phylactery

    \Phy*lac"ter*y\, n.; pl. Phylacteries. [OE. filateri, OF. filatire, filatiere, F. phylact[`e]re, L. phylacterium, Gr. ?, fr. ? a watcher, guard, ? to watch, guard. Cf. Philatory.] 1. Any charm or amulet worn as a preservative from danger or disease.

    2. A small square box, made either of parchment or of black calfskin, containing slips of parchment or vellum on which are written the scriptural passages Exodus xiii. 2-10, and 11-17, Deut. vi. 4-9, 13-22. They are worn by Jews on the head and left arm, on week-day mornings, during the time of prayer. --Schaff-Herzog Encyc.

    3. Among the primitive Christians, a case in which the relics of the dead were inclosed.

    Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

    phylactery

    n : (Judaism) a small leather case containing religious texts; worn by Jewish men during morning prayer
    /shrug just some RL info on a phylactery if anyone cared to know. persoanlly, i had no idea what one was =)

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    • #62
      A request and a few comments...

      Request: could a mod delete all the posts that do not deal with the Tradeskill parts of this quest, from this thread? There are a few higher up.

      Comments:
      In Dungeons and Dragons, one of the possible undead creatures is a Lich. In that game, a Lich needs a Phylactery to store his spirit essence so he reforms if slain. Only when the Phylactery is destroyed will the Lich be vanquished as well. I'm not sure if there's an older reference to a Phylactery in that particular context, but the D&D interpretation is by far the most widespread one when used as soul bond.

      I see a lot of people pondering about the Stone Silk insert. People have combined Silks straight with the Pattern in various quantities. Now I haven't been able to camp the Stone Spider yet, but the Phase Spider Silk needs to be combined first per two, to get a Thread, which is then used with the other items to create the Soul Net. I haven't seen any reports of someone trying just the following easy recipe:

      Stone Silk + Stone Silk, in a Tailoring Kit

      Could someone try this? It may be that we're doing more difficult than is really needed .

      Kaysha Soulsinger
      Member of the 1750 club since October 13th 2004
      True strength is not a measure of the body, it's a measure of the soul

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      • #64
        --Sadly, everything listed is DNC below--


        Following done in a collapsible sewing kit:

        Stone Silk + Stone Silk + Ethereal Curing Agent = DNC
        Stone Silk + Ethereal Curing Agent = DNC
        Stone Silk + Ethereal Curing Agent + Vial of Purified Mana= DNC
        Stone Silk + Stone Silk + Ethereal Curing Agent + Vial of Purified Mana= DNC

        I tried anywhere from 1-2 stone silks, anywhere from 1-4 Heady Kiolas, and all the different kinds of vials of mana, every possible headache-causing DNC combine there was to be had among 4 vials of mana, 4 heady kiolas, 2 silks, and adding and subtracting varying quantities of each. I regret, due to lack of tome of miragul, I do not have a pattern to try.

        **HAS ANYONE cast identify on the pattern? **

        Will try various other curing agents, and other kinds of mana vials, as well.

        Also DNC in a forge:

        Enchanted Bar of Velium + Smithing chisel + Coldain Velium Temper
        Enchanted Bar of Velium + Smithing Chisel
        Enchanted Bar of Velium + Smithing Chisel + Water

        --and--

        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits+ Coldain Velium Temper
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits +Coldain Velium Temper
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Coldain Velium Temper
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Coldain Velium Temper
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits+ Coldain Velium Temper + File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits +Coldain Velium Temper + File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Coldain Velium Temper + File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Coldain Velium Temper +File
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits+ Coldain Velium Temper + File + Vial of Purified Mana
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits +Coldain Velium Temper + File + Vial of Purified Mana
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Coldain Velium Temper + File + Vial of Purified Mana
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Coldain Velium Temper +File + Vial of Purified Mana
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + File + Vial of Purified Mana
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + File + Vial of Purified Mana
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + File + Vial of Purified Mana
        Spiritual Anchor + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + Velium Bits + File + Vial of Purified Mana

        I also tried adding in a hammer, in lieu of the file, and in addition to the file... hehe. Getting tired of copy-pasting everything that failed. =)


        DNC in Collapsible Jeweler's Kit:

        Enchanted Bar of Velium + Smithing chisel + Coldain Velium Temper
        Enchanted Bar of Velium + Smithing Chisel
        Enchanted Bar of Velium + Smithing Chisel + Water

        **HAS ANYONE cast identify on the hinge mold? **

        Trial and error.
        Last edited by KirieRavenwing; 10-23-2003, 08:14 PM.
        Duvessa Shadowmoon
        (Kirie Ravenwing)
        L 65 Buffing Ranger of Hoss
        Druzzil Ro

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        • #65
          **HAS ANYONE cast identify on the pattern? **
          i casted identify on every piece of the quest, no hidden clues

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          • #66
            I guess that would have been too easy. More DNCs on the Heady Paelas.
            Duvessa Shadowmoon
            (Kirie Ravenwing)
            L 65 Buffing Ranger of Hoss
            Druzzil Ro

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            • #67
              The lids of the phylactery must be hinged and as no portion of the item can be of ordinary manufacture. You must fashion clasps of sealing. This mold will help you, but the Velium bits used must be enchanted and combined with a seemingly mundane object that yet holds great powers over the soul of an undead and weighs it down, anchoring it to this world. Undead elves especially are held here in this way. The results are then carefully filed smooth.

              If it were me, I'd try:

              Bar of Enchanted Velium + Soul Anchor
              Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + Distilled Mana

              Bar of Enchanted Velium + Soul Anchor + File + Coldain Smithing Temper + Clasp Mold
              Bar of Enchanted Velium + Soul Anchor + File + Water + Clasp Mold
              Bar of Enchanted Velium + Soul Anchor + File + Celestial Temper + Clasp Mold
              Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + File + Coldain Smithing Temper + Clasp Mold
              Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + File + Water + Clasp Mold
              Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + File + Celestial Temper + Clasp Mold
              Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + File + Coldain Smithing Temper + Clasp Mold + Distilled Mana
              Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + File + Water + Clasp Mold + Distilled Mana
              Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + File + Celestial Temper + Clasp Mold + Distilled Mana
              Eidolon Faer
              Enchanter of the 81st Confusion, Brell Serilis / Cazic Thule
              Member of Veteran Crew

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              • #68
                Dangit, I bet this has two steps.

                The NoDrop Soul Anchor from Oasis is relatively easy, so the Anchor is the first combine and isn't returned on failure. The second combine uses the Nodrop mold which would be returned on failure.

                Bar of Enchanted Velium + Bar of Enchanted Velium + Coldain Velium Temper + Soul Anchor
                Bar of Enchanted Velium + Coldain Velium Temper + Soul Anchor
                Bar of Enchanted Velium + Bar of Enchanted Velium + Soul Anchor
                Bar of Enchanted Velium + Coldain Velium Temper + Soul Anchor
                Velium Bits + Distilled Mana + Soul Anchor

                Something like that...

                If I were thinking through the in-game logic of this one, I'd definitely make this one an annoying timesink in Oasis. Oh yes, look for the Soul Anchor to make some kind of necromantically-charged Velium Bits which are then combined with the mold and a file and maybe some temper.
                Eidolon Faer
                Enchanter of the 81st Confusion, Brell Serilis / Cazic Thule
                Member of Veteran Crew

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                • #69
                  I could be way off base on this as it's been a long time since I messed with smithing at all, but it seems I remember that in the case of some types of metal(perhaps all) that bars could be combined up to make bricks.... could it be that you could combine enchanted bars to make an enchanted small brick and then back down to enchanted bits?

                  Sorry if this off, but I can't access the main site from work, only the forums, so I can't go check on the recipe for making bricks(assuming one exists )

                  Crun

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                  • #70
                    Enchanted Velium Bits

                    I know this could be crazy but I'm at work reading thru this thread for the nth time and I thought...

                    Maybe combining the actual SPELL enchant velium with velium bits, block etc and trying all these 1000 permutations of combines with another variable (ie. the scroll itself) LOL

                    Maybe check to see if the spell is flagged for tradeskills or not would quickly eliminate it as a possiblity. I haven't had a chance to look at spells I know some would have to be flagged for skills now (like bind affinity) not sure about the rest.

                    I can't start the quest. Can't locate a Tome of Miragul but if I can get home from work early I can try this part... unless someone else gets a chance to do it first =)

                    If so... Plz! post here. I need to be entertained

                    5.75 work hours down
                    6.25 work hours to go

                    Sometimes I hate my job!
                    Maelina Mischevious
                    65 Enchanter
                    The Seventh Hammer

                    Jewelcraft 250
                    Baking 250
                    Brewing 250
                    Tailoring 250
                    Pottery 250
                    Fletching 250
                    Smithing 250

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                    • #71
                      I tryed the scroll yesterday with a bunch of different combos no luck. The scroll is Not marked as useable in tradeskills. Spell:bind affinity is not marked as tradeskill component, and worked in the pottery combine. None of the quest items have the tradeskill lables.

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                      • #72
                        I've been unable to get the Anchor, so would someone please try :
                        Clasp Mold + Velium Bits + Soul Anchor + File
                        Tanliel Ta'Eldareva
                        WebBard, Heroes of Luclin
                        300: Baker, Jeweler, Potter, Fletcher
                        250+: Brewer, Smith
                        247: Tailor

                        Quoth Ngreth, "It is all very mathy."

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                        • #73
                          Regarding enchanting velium ...

                          Just a really silly notion, but anyone tried using a Vah Shir Anvil in their velium combines with the Spiritual Anchor? ... After all, it *IS* a spirit anchor anvil.

                          IIRC, didn't NPC mention it had powers to help bond the spiritual to the mundane(or such) ... I need to recheck NPC texts, but if you were going to smith (read as PoP metal enchanting) a spiritual anchor to a velium bit, the anvil would fit in as a reasonable means to attach the spiritual to the physical ... much like making Humming Orbs. Maybe hammer too.

                          Regarding Stone Silk Insert ...

                          Is the Stone Silk durable in nature, or is there a way to make it into Durable Stone Silk (eg. Durable Planar Beam) ...

                          3 silks maybe? (need to camp more myself to check) ... or 1 silk + some sort of enforcing agent to make it durable? .. or woven with a needle to make it durable...

                          ... Just thoughts ...

                          Erikanudan Combustulous
                          Ayonae Ro, 1750
                          Last edited by Erikanudan; 10-24-2003, 05:41 PM.

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                          • #74
                            Originally posted by Eidolon Faer
                            The lids of the phylactery must be hinged and as no portion of the item can be of ordinary manufacture. You must fashion clasps of sealing. This mold will help you, but the Velium bits used must be enchanted and combined with a seemingly mundane object that yet holds great powers over the soul of an undead and weighs it down, anchoring it to this world. Undead elves especially are held here in this way. The results are then carefully filed smooth.
                            Perhaps try using Holy Water or Sacred Water (the throwing object) in a forge with the velium or some other undead slaying item (wood stake?) Or perhaps even an essence emerald or Lightstone from wisps? Perhaps a tiny jade inlaid coffin?

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                            • #75
                              Anyone tried making thread out of the Stone Silks?

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