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  • OK, I'm going to make a few assumptions here. These are my opinions, based on the discussion so far in this thread. I'll follow it up with a few observations and conclusions. I'm not sure how relevant all of this is; I could be completely off base and going on an irrelevant tangent, but...

    Read through, let me know if you agree or disagree.

    Assumptions:

    Assumption 1: The recipe for Brodder's Revenge is live and in game. The fact that the drink exists (even if only in the emulator) is evidence to support the existence of a recipe -- though it's hardly conclusive.

    Assumption 2: The only relevant anagrams found so far are "new ale" for Lewena and "Dain ale" for Barmaid Adelina (or whatever her name is). All the other anagrams were too far-fetched or incorrectly spelled.

    Assumption 3: Brodder's Diaries were introduced in-game during the Velious era. I don't know the exact release date, so this may well be wrong.

    Assumption 4: Assuming that all the recipes in the Diaries are correct, the implication is that they only use Velious-era or earlier ingredients. Thus, anything dropping exclusively from Luclin, PoP, or LoY zones is not part of the recipes. Note that this can easily be disproved if we find that Ice of Velious (used in the Frothy Frostbite) is exclusively a Luclin drop -- apparently it drops in Netherbian Lair, but I don't know if it drops in Velious zones. The name, however, suggests it should.

    Observations:

    These are based on the assumptions above.

    Observation 1: Most of Brodder's recipes are fairly simple, and don't use really obscure components (Ice of Velious being an exception, but I believe the Frothy Frostbite is the first known drink to require ice of any sort as a component). Side observation: there is also an item called an "Iceball" in game that could conceivably be used in brewing.

    Observation 2: Brodder knows the recipe works. Based on what he's said, I'm pretty sure he has tested the recipe. He just can't reveal it to us as it would break a trust with the developers.

    Observation 3: We don't have even a partial recipe for Brodder's Revenge, other than what Brodder himself has posted here. In his original posts, he just says his recipe may have been too risque as he envisioned it.

    Observation 4: Brodder has two purposes here. One is to help us solve Lewena's quest. The other is to discover his missing drinks! =) The two may or may not be related; the Frothy Frostbite apparently has nothing to do with the Lewena quest, other than that we found it as part of the search for the new ale.

    Observation 5: Brodder's Diaries, volume two, was never published in game -- or at least, it hasn't been found. It might be interesting to see if the item even exists in game via the emulator.

    Observation 6: We now have multiple clues that point at a Velious based solution. This is a Velious era recipe (even if the quest is based in Luclin). We have an anagram of "Dain ale." We have a hint that we need vodka, and there exists a drink called Kromrif spit vodka (not to mention plain old vodka).

    Observation 7: We can reasonably conclude, based on Lewena's name and Brodder's clues, that we're looking for a new ale.

    Observation 8: We already have ales that use an ale as a component (double-stout double-brewed dwarven ale, or whatever it's called).

    Observation 9: There is a possible unsolved quest in Thurgadin regarding the souvenir mugs. Four of the bars in Thurg have a bartender who offers to sell you a souvenir mug if you give him cash (it's not bought in a vendor window). The fifth bar has no such mug on offer. The four known souvenir mugs have sequential item numbers (30145 to 30148). Items 30144 and 30149 are not mugs. Allakhazam's has the quest writeup and commentary here: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=929

    Observation 10: There is, however, another item called a Nectar of Unity Mug (Item 30169) which identifies as "an almost clean mug that smells of ale" -- the exact same lore as Doogle's Signature Souvenir Mug (Item 30147). Allakhazam's had no information at all about this mug, but Magelo says it has been found in-game at least as early as Feb. 21, 2002. Googling on the name only produced the "Nectar of Unity Brewery and Tavern" in Katta Castellum, which suggests this may be completely irrelevant. However, if it is a Luclin item, that raises interesting questions about when it first appeared -- Luclin was only released in mid-2002, yet the item was live in February 2002. In addition, its item number is very close to the souvenir mugs, which suggests it's from the same era or expansion.

    Observation 11: Brodder hints that this quest will reward us with a "mug" when solved.

    Observation 12: The only items I could find with "choice" in the name were "Dain's Choice Porter" and "Gladiator Choice Ale". The only other brews I could find with "dain" in the name are "Coldain Bone Brew", "Coldain Ice Beer", and "Flaming Coldain". None of these items has any lore text. (I checked both Magelo and Lucy for this bit.)

    Conclusions and random ramblings:

    Is it possible we're to take Brodder's hints and apply them in a Velious context? There's a bar in Thurgadin that sells a Dain's Choice Ale (I think that's the name) and a Kromrif Spit Vodka. Could these be part of the solution?

    Could the "mug" that Lewena gives us be the missing souvenir mug from Thurgadin? Is it the Nectar of Unity Mug? If it is, what do we do with all five mugs? And if this is the case, why would the mug have been in-game some five months before Luclin's public release?

    Am I completely missing the mark on something here?
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    • Assumptions: ye know whut dey say bout sumptions doncha?

      Assumption 1: The recipe for Brodder's Revenge is live and in game. The fact that the drink exists (even if only in the emulator) is evidence to support the existence of a recipe -- though it's hardly conclusive.
      Yep dat'd be a good assumption.

      Assumption 2: The only relevant anagrams found so far are "new ale" for Lewena and "Dain ale" for Barmaid Adelina (or whatever her name is). All the other anagrams were too far-fetched or incorrectly spelled.
      no comment here

      Assumption 3: Brodder's Diaries were introduced in-game during the Velious era. I don't know the exact release date, so this may well be wrong. written during ROK (pre actually), added with tradeskill enhancement just prior to velious.

      Assumption 4: Assuming that all the recipes in the Diaries are correct, the implication is that they only use Velious-era or earlier ingredients. Thus, anything dropping exclusively from Luclin, PoP, or LoY zones is not part of the recipes. Note that this can easily be disproved if we find that Ice of Velious (used in the Frothy Frostbite) is exclusively a Luclin drop -- apparently it drops in Netherbian Lair, but I don't know if it drops in Velious zones. The name, however, suggests it should.
      go check diaries and known recipes on the board here...ye might be surprised. Also Ice of Velious was a Mage rune ingredient long before ROK/SOV. Probably still is.


      Observations:

      These are based on the assumptions above.

      Observation 1: Most of Brodder's recipes are fairly simple, and don't use really obscure components (Ice of Velious being an exception, but I believe the Frothy Frostbite is the first known drink to require ice of any sort as a component). Side observation: there is also an item called an "Iceball" in game that could conceivably be used in brewing.
      look at stormguard rootbeer float...

      Observation 2: Brodder knows the recipe works. Based on what he's said, I'm pretty sure he has tested the recipe. He just can't reveal it to us as it would break a trust with the developers.
      ding ! Okay Tom tell our player what he's won today!

      Observation 3: We don't have even a partial recipe for Brodder's Revenge, other than what Brodder himself has posted here. In his original posts, he just says his recipe may have been too risque as he envisioned it.
      not true, you've what's in the diaries, and in previous parts of this thread. Note it may be a pepper (hot), or a pepper sauce (tobasco) instead of spices since something similar came about in Luclin neh? Not saying it is, but there could be such a chance of it being true...


      Observation 4: Brodder has two purposes here. One is to help us solve Lewena's quest. The other is to discover his missing drinks! =) The two may or may not be related; the Frothy Frostbite apparently has nothing to do with the Lewena quest, other than that we found it as part of the search for the new ale.
      Maybe///

      Observation 5: Brodder's Diaries, volume two, was never published in game -- or at least, it hasn't been found. It might be interesting to see if the item even exists in game via the emulator.
      I'd be interested too...but then I know things ye don't...sorry

      Observation 6: We now have multiple clues that point at a Velious based solution. This is a Velious era recipe (even if the quest is based in Luclin). We have an anagram of "Dain ale." We have a hint that we need vodka, and there exists a drink called Kromrif spit vodka (not to mention plain old vodka).
      both hot and cold at same time...interesting ideas...might be worth exploring

      Observation 7: We can reasonably conclude, based on Lewena's name and Brodder's clues, that we're looking for a new ale.
      would I pull yer leg dat hard?

      Observation 8: We already have ales that use an ale as a component (double-stout double-brewed dwarven ale, or whatever it's called).
      ayup...dat wus me idea too

      Observation 9: There is a possible unsolved quest in Thurgadin regarding the souvenir mugs. Four of the bars in Thurg have a bartender who offers to sell you a souvenir mug if you give him cash (it's not bought in a vendor window). The fifth bar has no such mug on offer. The four known souvenir mugs have sequential item numbers (30145 to 30148). Items 30144 and 30149 are not mugs. Allakhazam's has the quest writeup and commentary here: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=929
      interesting indeed

      Observation 10: There is, however, another item called a Nectar of Unity Mug (Item 30169) which identifies as "an almost clean mug that smells of ale" -- the exact same lore as Doogle's Signature Souvenir Mug (Item 30147). Allakhazam's had no information at all about this mug, but Magelo says it has been found in-game at least as early as Feb. 21, 2002. Googling on the name only produced the "Nectar of Unity Brewery and Tavern" in Katta Castellum, which suggests this may be completely irrelevant. However, if it is a Luclin item, that raises interesting questions about when it first appeared -- Luclin was only released in mid-2002, yet the item was live in February 2002. In addition, its item number is very close to the souvenir mugs, which suggests it's from the same era or expansion.
      Never heard of it...den again I'm in dah dark allot lately...

      Observation 11: Brodder hints that this quest will reward us with a "mug" when solved.
      maybe...dunno, who's got item dev? Ask him

      Observation 12: The only items I could find with "choice" in the name were "Dain's Choice Porter" and "Gladiator Choice Ale". The only other brews I could find with "dain" in the name are "Coldain Bone Brew", "Coldain Ice Beer", and "Flaming Coldain". None of these items has any lore text. (I checked both Magelo and Lucy for this bit.)
      might be simpler den dat matey...den again it is VI we talking bout neh?


      Conclusions and random ramblings:

      Is it possible we're to take Brodder's hints and apply them in a Velious context? There's a bar in Thurgadin that sells a Dain's Choice Ale (I think that's the name) and a Kromrif Spit Vodka. Could these be part of the solution?

      Could the "mug" that Lewena gives us be the missing souvenir mug from Thurgadin? Is it the Nectar of Unity Mug? If it is, what do we do with all five mugs? And if this is the case, why would the mug have been in-game some five months before Luclin's public release?

      Am I completely missing the mark on something here?
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      • from alakazam's too- des one guy says he got a mug in gm event ehh? Wif a lil blood on it? Wunder if it's me dented mithril mug, it wus a battle mug worthy of brell's finest brewer I tell ye!

        Velium Keg
        Posted @ Mon, Jul 15th 4:18 AM 2002
        By: Anonymous
        Score: Default [2.00] I got the Velium Keg Collector's Mug from a GM event called "Ale Across Kelethin". I won second place It identifies as a mug with a bit of blood dried on it. So, the Velium Keg mug does exist in the game. Currently I am trying for the other mugs to complete my collection, but I seriously doubt there is a quest involved.

        Ah've always wondered about dat Thurgadin quest, and many of dah jokes in Thurgadin are based on stuff meself, DanEnright, and Sam the merchant man chatted about...


        Der were two brodder enhancements to tradeskills, dah first was with the initial massive tradeskill changes, and the second, with the addition of the diaries....

        Back to the scheduled program... IN SEARCH OF...

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        • Observation 5: Brodder's Diaries, volume two, was never published in game -- or at least, it hasn't been found. It might be interesting to see if the item even exists in game via the emulator.
          Nope, at the time the SOE database was scanned, volume 2 was still missing.

          That doesn't mean it hasn't been added since though.

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          • Originally posted by Brodder FoamyMugs
            Assumptions: ye know whut dey say bout sumptions doncha?

            Observation 4: Brodder has two purposes here. One is to help us solve Lewena's quest. The other is to discover his missing drinks! =) The two may or may not be related; the Frothy Frostbite apparently has nothing to do with the Lewena quest, other than that we found it as part of the search for the new ale.
            Maybe///
            Just a shot here, but I am thinking he is pushing us to find his missing recipies. The reason that I think this, is that there are a number of "drinks" listed on Lucy that were not listed as being tried on the first page of this thread.

            But, not being familiar with what all was introduced in what expansion, I am not sure which of those drinks would be worthwhile to try to give to her.
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            • Originally posted by Brodder FoamyMugs
              Observation 6: We now have multiple clues that point at a Velious based solution. This is a Velious era recipe (even if the quest is based in Luclin). We have an anagram of "Dain ale." We have a hint that we need vodka, and there exists a drink called Kromrif spit vodka (not to mention plain old vodka).
              both hot and cold at same time...interesting ideas...might be worth exploring

              Observation 12: The only items I could find with "choice" in the name were "Dain's Choice Porter" and "Gladiator Choice Ale". The only other brews I could find with "dain" in the name are "Coldain Bone Brew", "Coldain Ice Beer", and "Flaming Coldain". None of these items has any lore text. (I checked both Magelo and Lucy for this bit.)
              might be simpler den dat matey...den again it is VI we talking bout neh?

              Conclusions and random ramblings:

              Is it possible we're to take Brodder's hints and apply them in a Velious context? There's a bar in Thurgadin that sells a Dain's Choice Ale (I think that's the name) and a Kromrif Spit Vodka. Could these be part of the solution?
              Coldain Heater?
              fits the clues of hot, Velious reference, added during Luclin
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              • Does dry ice exist in some form in-game? Dry ice (frozen carbon dioxide) is extremely cold. It sits at around -109.3 degrees farenheit. If you've ever been dumb enough (shaddup, I was like 10 at the time) to actually grab some dry ice with your bare hands, it burns to the touch. If it exists in-game it might be something that we should be looking at.
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                • He responds to the "dain ale" and "ks vodka" comments with "hot and cold at the same time". Personally, I took this to mean that the person was on to something in one part, and quite far away in another. Considering his "no comment" status on the anagrams (which is what led us to dain ale), I am tempted to believe that that is a red herring, and the KSVodka is indeed the vodka in the recipe.

                  For the emulator-minded folk, if there were a prize for the turn-in, it too would be listed there. Just a thought....

                  I also would like to thank the Brewer for leading us about this crazy ride. We might not get it soon, but it's surely fun, and your help is well appreciated.

                  In all, it would seem that the recipe is a mixture of his original idea and the one hinted at in his poem:

                  ks vodka + snake egg + [some type of known ale, maybe even vendor sold... check those tradeskill tags!] + [some type of spice-spicy object, not nec'y spices] + cask

                  Either the ale or the spice (or both) could be somewhere near Lewena (for all the "near the lass" references).

                  Ok, so apparently this DOESN'T have anything to do with Tiplo. No matter. I am going to stomp on his garden anyways, until he spills his secrets.
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                  • Originally posted by Nihixul
                    He responds to the "dain ale" and "ks vodka" comments with "hot and cold at the same time". Personally, I took this to mean that the person was on to something in one part, and quite far away in another.
                    Gah. I've reread it in that context and you're right. Looks like my dwarven comprehension skills are not up to par.
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                    • Looks like its time to start checking out merchants tonight. You can find me at the barrels in Shadowhaven tonight. I'll either be brewing or drinking, or perhaps a little of both.

                      (NOTE: While looking for all things "Brodder" online, I happened upon this gem. Seems our friendly dwarf is also doing quite well at that other game:
                      Brodder FoamyMugs
                      50th level Dwarf Thane
                      Stormur Vakten
                      Guild rank: 0
                      Realm Points: 608,187
                      Gained last week: 7,872

                      Busy dwarf, so I hear.)

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                      • I've been thinking about the hot-and-cold comment. Yes, he could have meant closer and further from the solution, but it could also be read literally. I decided to look for interesting combinations of hot and cold drinks based in Thurgadin. For each combination I tried below, I used no container, a cask, a bottle, and a shot glass. All were DNC.

                        I wrote this up as I went along and tried different ideas, so it's really more stream-of-consciousness than actual organized ideas. =)

                        OK, here are the various combinations I tried. I found a Doogles Spiced Rum in one of the Thurg bars that I've been trying instead of straight spices.

                        KS Vodka + Coldain Iced Beer + Doogles Spiced Rum + Snake Egg
                        KS Vodka + Coldain Iced Beer + Coldain Heater + Snake Egg
                        KS Vodka + Ice of Velious + Coldain Heater + Snake Egg
                        KS Vodka + Ice of Velious + Doogles Spiced Rum + Snake Egg
                        Vodka + Coldain Iced Beer + Doogles Spiced Rum + Snake Egg
                        Vodka + Coldain Iced Beer + Coldain Heater + Snake Egg
                        Vodka + Ice of Velious + Coldain Heater + Snake Egg
                        Vodka + Ice of Velious + Doogles Spiced Rum + Snake Egg

                        After doing this set of combines, I realized that neither the spiced rum nor the iced beer is Tradeskill-tagged, so I sold them and started checking the nearby bars. I found Melted Glacier Whiskey, which was tradeskill-tagged and seemed to fit the "cold" part of the theme. Going back to Coldian Heaters as the "hot-and-spicy" bit, I tried the following combines:

                        KS Vodka + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Coldain Heater + Snake Egg
                        KS Vodka + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Coldain Heater + Ice of Velious
                        KS Vodka + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Coldain Heater + Aviak Eggs

                        Then I decided to go back to an earlier idea, that we should use Egg Nog or Egg Nog XXX as an ingredient. While browsing the lists, I came across the brewing ingredient "Allspice", which put me in mind of Brodder's comment that what we need is not literal "spices", but merely something spicy. So, I decided to play with that a bit too.

                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog
                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog XXX
                        Vodka + Egg Nog
                        Vodka + Egg Nog XXX

                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog + Spices
                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog XXX + Spices
                        Vodka + Egg Nog + Spices
                        Vodka + Egg Nog XXX + Spices

                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog + Allspice
                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog XXX + Allspice
                        Vodka + Egg Nog + Allspice
                        Vodka + Egg Nog XXX + Allspice

                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog + Coldain Heater
                        KS Vodka + Egg Nog XXX + Coldain Heater
                        Vodka + Egg Nog + Coldain Heater
                        Vodka + Egg Nog XXX + Coldain Heater

                        Most interestingly, there is a barkeep in Thurg called Grimthor Brewbeard ... the same name as the owner of the bar Lewena patronizes. Not sure if this portends anything, though. This dude is a Coldain dwarf, while the Luclin Grimthor is human and has no last name. The Coldain Grimthor has no response to a hail.

                        Right around here, I got bored of Thurg and all these empty combines. I started reading the thread in detail, and decided to try a few of the recipes Brodder listed. I focused on possible variations of Brodder's Revenge.

                        Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Vegetables + Snake Egg
                        Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Vegetables + Snake Egg

                        Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Jumjum Stalk + Snake Egg
                        Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Jumjum Stalk + Snake Egg

                        Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Carrot + Snake Egg
                        Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Carrot + Snake Egg

                        Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Turnip + Snake Egg
                        Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Turnip + Snake Egg

                        Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Lettuce + Snake Egg
                        Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Lettuce + Snake Egg

                        That's about as far as I got today. I'll try more later.
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                        • Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Carrot + Snake Egg
                          Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Carrot + Snake Egg

                          Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Turnip + Snake Egg
                          Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Turnip + Snake Egg

                          Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Lettuce + Snake Egg
                          Short Ale + Melted Glacier Whiskey + Lettuce + Snake Egg
                          While not funny really, these gave me a chuckle while reading. Remind me not to taste any of your Turnip Ale.

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                          • Okay someone today in the serverwide channel said that they thought Brodder's Revenge would be a hangover cure, which totally makes sense... raw eggs in a drink eww...

                            So I started thinking, raw eggs and vodka and tabasco sauce, no? That's what traditionally goes in a hangover remedy. Your revenge is cured makes much more sense now.

                            But there's no tabasco sauce in-game. There are habanero peppers but they were released long after Luclin...

                            So I started looking through the forage tables while asking myself why oh why would a dorf use foraged goods for something he needs practically every morning?

                            And then it hit me.... Firewater. I am fairly certain this is what it has to be. Unfortunately I can't find any %#*(#)! tinkerers on at the moment. Firewater is gnomish, and the diaries were written in gnomish. I dunno. It just sounds "right".

                            So... ****** I wish I could find some firewater and prove or disprove this...

                            eggs (type??) + firewater + vodka (or KS vodka) + container (shotglass?) = Brodder's Revenge?

                            I will keep searching for firewater. I don't know why but this just seems like the avenue to pursue.

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                            • The trivial for firewater is EXTREMELY low and the use of the tinkering skill is not restricted, with a few combines you'll probably get a success at 0 skill.

                              I have suggested Allspice before. It's definition was something about it being spice or something or other...

                              http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Allspice

                              Allspice

                              \All"spice`\, n. The berry of the pimento (Eugenia pimenta), a tree of the West Indies; a spice of a mildly pungent taste, and agreeably aromatic; Jamaica pepper; pimento. It has been supposed to combine the flavor of cinnamon, nutmegs, and cloves; and hence the name. The name is also given to other aromatic shrubs; as, the Carolina allspice (Calycanthus floridus); wild allspice (Lindera benzoin), called also spicebush, spicewood, and feverbush.

                              Im leaning towards that...

                              The hangover cure thing is what ive been thinking for a while now. I just wish i could get on to test some of these things out myself.
                              I do belive that the "Nectar of Unity" bar is the cleric's tavern in Thurgadin.. though im probably wrong.

                              ....

                              Observation 3: We don't have even a partial recipe for Brodder's Revenge, other than what Brodder himself has posted here. In his original posts, he just says his recipe may have been too risque as he envisioned it.
                              not true, you've what's in the diaries, and in previous parts of this thread. Note it may be a pepper (hot), or a pepper sauce (tobasco) instead of spices since something similar came about in Luclin neh? Not saying it is, but there could be such a chance of it being true...
                              He kinda-sorta hints that there is a pepper or a spice that was released in Luclin... any new alchemy stuff added in luclin? or what do napeta or paela mean if they are even real items?..
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                              • http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nepeta

                                nepeta

                                \Nep"e*ta\, n. [L.] (Bot.) A genus of labiate plants, including the catnip and ground ivy.

                                Those crazy kitties.... They make us temper our armor with catnip
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