OK, I'm going to make a few assumptions here. These are my opinions, based on the discussion so far in this thread. I'll follow it up with a few observations and conclusions. I'm not sure how relevant all of this is; I could be completely off base and going on an irrelevant tangent, but...
Read through, let me know if you agree or disagree.
Assumptions:
Assumption 1: The recipe for Brodder's Revenge is live and in game. The fact that the drink exists (even if only in the emulator) is evidence to support the existence of a recipe -- though it's hardly conclusive.
Assumption 2: The only relevant anagrams found so far are "new ale" for Lewena and "Dain ale" for Barmaid Adelina (or whatever her name is). All the other anagrams were too far-fetched or incorrectly spelled.
Assumption 3: Brodder's Diaries were introduced in-game during the Velious era. I don't know the exact release date, so this may well be wrong.
Assumption 4: Assuming that all the recipes in the Diaries are correct, the implication is that they only use Velious-era or earlier ingredients. Thus, anything dropping exclusively from Luclin, PoP, or LoY zones is not part of the recipes. Note that this can easily be disproved if we find that Ice of Velious (used in the Frothy Frostbite) is exclusively a Luclin drop -- apparently it drops in Netherbian Lair, but I don't know if it drops in Velious zones. The name, however, suggests it should.
Observations:
These are based on the assumptions above.
Observation 1: Most of Brodder's recipes are fairly simple, and don't use really obscure components (Ice of Velious being an exception, but I believe the Frothy Frostbite is the first known drink to require ice of any sort as a component). Side observation: there is also an item called an "Iceball" in game that could conceivably be used in brewing.
Observation 2: Brodder knows the recipe works. Based on what he's said, I'm pretty sure he has tested the recipe. He just can't reveal it to us as it would break a trust with the developers.
Observation 3: We don't have even a partial recipe for Brodder's Revenge, other than what Brodder himself has posted here. In his original posts, he just says his recipe may have been too risque as he envisioned it.
Observation 4: Brodder has two purposes here. One is to help us solve Lewena's quest. The other is to discover his missing drinks! =) The two may or may not be related; the Frothy Frostbite apparently has nothing to do with the Lewena quest, other than that we found it as part of the search for the new ale.
Observation 5: Brodder's Diaries, volume two, was never published in game -- or at least, it hasn't been found. It might be interesting to see if the item even exists in game via the emulator.
Observation 6: We now have multiple clues that point at a Velious based solution. This is a Velious era recipe (even if the quest is based in Luclin). We have an anagram of "Dain ale." We have a hint that we need vodka, and there exists a drink called Kromrif spit vodka (not to mention plain old vodka).
Observation 7: We can reasonably conclude, based on Lewena's name and Brodder's clues, that we're looking for a new ale.
Observation 8: We already have ales that use an ale as a component (double-stout double-brewed dwarven ale, or whatever it's called).
Observation 9: There is a possible unsolved quest in Thurgadin regarding the souvenir mugs. Four of the bars in Thurg have a bartender who offers to sell you a souvenir mug if you give him cash (it's not bought in a vendor window). The fifth bar has no such mug on offer. The four known souvenir mugs have sequential item numbers (30145 to 30148). Items 30144 and 30149 are not mugs. Allakhazam's has the quest writeup and commentary here: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=929
Observation 10: There is, however, another item called a Nectar of Unity Mug (Item 30169) which identifies as "an almost clean mug that smells of ale" -- the exact same lore as Doogle's Signature Souvenir Mug (Item 30147). Allakhazam's had no information at all about this mug, but Magelo says it has been found in-game at least as early as Feb. 21, 2002. Googling on the name only produced the "Nectar of Unity Brewery and Tavern" in Katta Castellum, which suggests this may be completely irrelevant. However, if it is a Luclin item, that raises interesting questions about when it first appeared -- Luclin was only released in mid-2002, yet the item was live in February 2002. In addition, its item number is very close to the souvenir mugs, which suggests it's from the same era or expansion.
Observation 11: Brodder hints that this quest will reward us with a "mug" when solved.
Observation 12: The only items I could find with "choice" in the name were "Dain's Choice Porter" and "Gladiator Choice Ale". The only other brews I could find with "dain" in the name are "Coldain Bone Brew", "Coldain Ice Beer", and "Flaming Coldain". None of these items has any lore text. (I checked both Magelo and Lucy for this bit.)
Conclusions and random ramblings:
Is it possible we're to take Brodder's hints and apply them in a Velious context? There's a bar in Thurgadin that sells a Dain's Choice Ale (I think that's the name) and a Kromrif Spit Vodka. Could these be part of the solution?
Could the "mug" that Lewena gives us be the missing souvenir mug from Thurgadin? Is it the Nectar of Unity Mug? If it is, what do we do with all five mugs? And if this is the case, why would the mug have been in-game some five months before Luclin's public release?
Am I completely missing the mark on something here?
Read through, let me know if you agree or disagree.
Assumptions:
Assumption 1: The recipe for Brodder's Revenge is live and in game. The fact that the drink exists (even if only in the emulator) is evidence to support the existence of a recipe -- though it's hardly conclusive.
Assumption 2: The only relevant anagrams found so far are "new ale" for Lewena and "Dain ale" for Barmaid Adelina (or whatever her name is). All the other anagrams were too far-fetched or incorrectly spelled.
Assumption 3: Brodder's Diaries were introduced in-game during the Velious era. I don't know the exact release date, so this may well be wrong.
Assumption 4: Assuming that all the recipes in the Diaries are correct, the implication is that they only use Velious-era or earlier ingredients. Thus, anything dropping exclusively from Luclin, PoP, or LoY zones is not part of the recipes. Note that this can easily be disproved if we find that Ice of Velious (used in the Frothy Frostbite) is exclusively a Luclin drop -- apparently it drops in Netherbian Lair, but I don't know if it drops in Velious zones. The name, however, suggests it should.
Observations:
These are based on the assumptions above.
Observation 1: Most of Brodder's recipes are fairly simple, and don't use really obscure components (Ice of Velious being an exception, but I believe the Frothy Frostbite is the first known drink to require ice of any sort as a component). Side observation: there is also an item called an "Iceball" in game that could conceivably be used in brewing.
Observation 2: Brodder knows the recipe works. Based on what he's said, I'm pretty sure he has tested the recipe. He just can't reveal it to us as it would break a trust with the developers.
Observation 3: We don't have even a partial recipe for Brodder's Revenge, other than what Brodder himself has posted here. In his original posts, he just says his recipe may have been too risque as he envisioned it.
Observation 4: Brodder has two purposes here. One is to help us solve Lewena's quest. The other is to discover his missing drinks! =) The two may or may not be related; the Frothy Frostbite apparently has nothing to do with the Lewena quest, other than that we found it as part of the search for the new ale.
Observation 5: Brodder's Diaries, volume two, was never published in game -- or at least, it hasn't been found. It might be interesting to see if the item even exists in game via the emulator.
Observation 6: We now have multiple clues that point at a Velious based solution. This is a Velious era recipe (even if the quest is based in Luclin). We have an anagram of "Dain ale." We have a hint that we need vodka, and there exists a drink called Kromrif spit vodka (not to mention plain old vodka).
Observation 7: We can reasonably conclude, based on Lewena's name and Brodder's clues, that we're looking for a new ale.
Observation 8: We already have ales that use an ale as a component (double-stout double-brewed dwarven ale, or whatever it's called).
Observation 9: There is a possible unsolved quest in Thurgadin regarding the souvenir mugs. Four of the bars in Thurg have a bartender who offers to sell you a souvenir mug if you give him cash (it's not bought in a vendor window). The fifth bar has no such mug on offer. The four known souvenir mugs have sequential item numbers (30145 to 30148). Items 30144 and 30149 are not mugs. Allakhazam's has the quest writeup and commentary here: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=929
Observation 10: There is, however, another item called a Nectar of Unity Mug (Item 30169) which identifies as "an almost clean mug that smells of ale" -- the exact same lore as Doogle's Signature Souvenir Mug (Item 30147). Allakhazam's had no information at all about this mug, but Magelo says it has been found in-game at least as early as Feb. 21, 2002. Googling on the name only produced the "Nectar of Unity Brewery and Tavern" in Katta Castellum, which suggests this may be completely irrelevant. However, if it is a Luclin item, that raises interesting questions about when it first appeared -- Luclin was only released in mid-2002, yet the item was live in February 2002. In addition, its item number is very close to the souvenir mugs, which suggests it's from the same era or expansion.
Observation 11: Brodder hints that this quest will reward us with a "mug" when solved.
Observation 12: The only items I could find with "choice" in the name were "Dain's Choice Porter" and "Gladiator Choice Ale". The only other brews I could find with "dain" in the name are "Coldain Bone Brew", "Coldain Ice Beer", and "Flaming Coldain". None of these items has any lore text. (I checked both Magelo and Lucy for this bit.)
Conclusions and random ramblings:
Is it possible we're to take Brodder's hints and apply them in a Velious context? There's a bar in Thurgadin that sells a Dain's Choice Ale (I think that's the name) and a Kromrif Spit Vodka. Could these be part of the solution?
Could the "mug" that Lewena gives us be the missing souvenir mug from Thurgadin? Is it the Nectar of Unity Mug? If it is, what do we do with all five mugs? And if this is the case, why would the mug have been in-game some five months before Luclin's public release?
Am I completely missing the mark on something here?
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