Upcoming Cultural Changes

[Elfdruidess]

Apart from the obvious cultural drops that will become obsolete soon, perhaps we should make a list of the "not as obvious" dropped items as a warning?

From what I have gathered from this thread, the following dropped items should also be used up as soon as possible (only listing Master and Grandmaster lvl):

Purescale Ore
Crushed Diamond Dust
Shissar Scales (for symbols)
Nightmare Arachnid Swatch (for symbols)
Large Corathus Fungus (for charms) ??


I'm not as sure about the following, but it seems they are going obsolete in the same patch. Correct me if I'm wrong:

Shimmering Silk
Mottled Hide
Magnificiant Hide
Fine Silk
Chronal Steel
Discordant Steel
Bazu Steel
Last Blood Steel


I believe the following are *not* affected:
Dust of Discord
Discordant Scoriae
Slugworms
Trean Flies


I know quest changes for patterns are not as imminent, but I'll like to know if this is only affecting Symbol Books or the following two books as well:

Ancestral Book for different races
Seals of Darkhollow

[Artemisia]

Quick question too *between 1 combine and another*

Is it true that with the new changes you will ONLY be able to make armor for the same deity and class/race as your own?
meaning will my Agnostic chanter gnome ONLY be able to make items for agnostic chanter gnomes?
Or can we still make the armor for any gnome class and augs of any deity?

*worried about this*

[Eggborn]

Apart from the obvious cultural drops that will become obsolete soon, perhaps we should make a list of the "not as obvious" dropped items as a warning?

From what I have gathered from this thread, the following dropped items should also be used up as soon as possible (only listing Master and Grandmaster lvl):

Purescale Ore
Crushed Diamond Dust
Shissar Scales (for symbols)
Nightmare Arachnid Swatch (for symbols)
Large Corathus Fungus (for charms) ??


I'm not as sure about the following, but it seems they are going obsolete in the same patch. Correct me if I'm wrong:

Shimmering Silk
Mottled Hide
Magnificiant Hide
Fine Silk
Chronal Steel
Discordant Steel
Bazu Steel
Last Blood Steel


I believe the following are *not* affected:
Dust of Discord
Discordant Scoriae
Slugworms
Trean Flies


I know quest changes for patterns are not as imminent, but I'll like to know if this is only affecting Symbol Books or the following two books as well:

Ancestral Book for different races
Seals of Darkhollow

I hope it isn't all bad, been waiting for a last blood to drop and the tablet I need for dodge for a while now. (Guilds been hunting fabled.) The hubby is waiting on someone who can do his tablet combine. We both have AAAA's seals and the other things needed.

So if I understand things right:

My AAAA is OK.
My last blood seal won't work.
I am not sure on:

The last blood my hubby has will work or won't?
The ink, parchment, tablet will or won't work?
Will my trophie stats go away for tailoring, or just not be able to be evolved?
Will my tradeskill charm go away?

[Ngreth Thergn]

Apart from the obvious cultural drops that will become obsolete soon, perhaps we should make a list of the "not as obvious" dropped items as a warning?

From what I have gathered from this thread, the following dropped items should also be used up as soon as possible (only listing Master and Grandmaster lvl):

Purescale Ore
Crushed Diamond Dust
Shissar Scales (for symbols)
Nightmare Arachnid Swatch (for symbols)
Large Corathus Fungus (for charms) ??

Large Corathus Fungus not going away.
Shissar scales and Nightmare arachnid silk were ALOS used for armor, and are definitely going the way of the dodo.
Jade shards and Lambent stones are also going away.

I'm not as sure about the following, but it seems they are going obsolete in the same patch. Correct me if I'm wrong:

Shimmering Silk
Mottled Hide
Magnificiant Hide
Fine Silk
Chronal Steel
Discordant Steel
Bazu Steel
Last Blood Steel


I believe the following are *not* affected:
Dust of Discord
Discordant Scoriae
Slugworms
Trean Flies

correct

I know quest changes for patterns are not as imminent, but I'll like to know if this is only affecting Symbol Books or the following two books as well:

Ancestral Book for different races
Seals of Darkhollow

just like the other quest books not going anywhere.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Quick question too *between 1 combine and another*

Is it true that with the new changes you will ONLY be able to make armor for the same deity and class/race as your own?
meaning will my Agnostic chanter gnome ONLY be able to make items for agnostic chanter gnomes?
Or can we still make the armor for any gnome class and augs of any deity?

*worried about this*

Not true... someone starting a bad rumor.

You continue to only be able to make ARMOR for your own race.
You continue to be able to make any symbol you can finish the quest for.

[Ngreth Thergn]

I hope it isn't all bad, been waiting for a last blood to drop and the tablet I need for dodge for a while now. (Guilds been hunting fabled.) The hubby is waiting on someone who can do his tablet combine. We both have AAAA's seals and the other things needed.

So if I understand things right:

My AAAA is OK.
My last blood seal won't work.

correct. But the seal is one of the "easy" parts.

I am not sure on:

The last blood my hubby has will work or won't?
The ink, parchment, tablet will or won't work?
Will my trophie stats go away for tailoring, or just not be able to be evolved?
Will my tradeskill charm go away?

Last blood drop will work.
ink, parchment, tablet will work
Trophy is totally unaffected.
"Artisan" (and such) charms totally unaffected
The "cultural armor" charms have a recipe update, but the items themselves unchanged.

[Artemisia]

Not true... someone starting a bad rumor.

You continue to only be able to make ARMOR for your own race.
You continue to be able to make any symbol you can finish the quest for.

Woots! You made someone a very happy halfelf on my server and me a very happy gnome*goes of to tell the Druid the good news*

[Posatrocible]

In response to Rawckett's original question: Has the patch with these changes been scheduled yet?

Just the names. (4/18/07) the rest of it not yet scheduled since we are still waiting on the code change.

Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but can someone confirm that the original ingredients will still combine after the (4/18/07) patch? TIA!

[Unapuma]

From what Ngreth said so far, the recipes itself will not change with the upcoming patch, only the names are changing.

[Elfdruidess]

I know quest changes for patterns are not as imminent, but I'll like to know if this is only affecting Symbol Books or the following two books as well:

Ancestral Book for different races
Seals of Darkhollow

just like the other quest books not going anywhere.

Sorry that I was not clear with my question. What I mean was, will the quests for Ancestral Books and Seals of Darkhollow be changed together with the quests for the Symbol Books when the day comes in the near future?

I know that changes to these two quests will not mean much to most people, but I suppose there are people like me who has more than 4 sets of components for the Ancestral Book in bank (grab a few sets on one trip and save the time needed to go back). If these component sets are handed to the quest NPC and converted into Ancestral Books (not lore), they will take up more than 4 inventory slots if we have more than 4 sets of components. So, umm... just want to know if I should hand them all to the quest NPC before the quest changes.

[Strokker]

Ngreth said Lambent Stones are going away? I thought they were used in a Quest or two at least I know of a Bard Quest they are used in and I think I remember a Wizard Quest as well...

Yup I thought so:Bard Lambent Gems
Darkwood Staff

[Taglos]

Let me start with, I think the changes to the system sound well thought out and sound like it should ease a lot of the disparities amongst the races. The advance notice is also great.

correct. But the seal is one of the "easy" parts.

Last blood drop will work.
ink, parchment, tablet will work
Trophy is totally unaffected.
"Artisan" (and such) charms totally unaffected
The "cultural armor" charms have a recipe update, but the items themselves unchanged.

I am a bit confused why the seals will be changing at all. If the inks, parchments and tablets are not changing and if the seals are the "easy" part, why would they need to be changed at all?

I guess the guild needs to not change any of the LB Steel / Silk into Seals except on a per use basis as to not end up with worthless Seals.

[Neranya]

First I would like to thank Ngreth for the many responses to the posts in this thread. I think its great.

Will the recipes for Alchemy and Jewelcrafting be changed? The Alchemy recipes went through an overhaul a few expansions ago, so I don't know if that tradeskill needs revamping. And Jewelcrafting seems fairly straightforward for the majority of recipes: a precious metal and a jewel.

I have seen many references to soft and hard caps in this post, and I am not really sure what they mean. Would someone be so kind as to explain this, or point me towards an existing source that does? I would greatly appreciate it.

Neranya
Shadowknight of Stromm

[Posatrocible]

I agree with Neranya 100% -- this post has been really interesting to read especially with Ngreth's concise answers.

I realise that there are many factors affecting when these changes will come into effect, but I am curious if we are talking hours, days, or a week passed the upcoming (4/18/07) patch? Will there be any "final" warning (say 24 hours in advance) that the changes are being implemented?

Sorry to be such a pest, it's just that (while I have used up all my TS material) I don't want to put my TS advancement on pause indefinitely. If the changes are still a week away, I would like to continue buying components and skilling up.

[Alfonse Auburnleaf]

I'd like to thank Ngreth for a TRUELY AWESOME job of implementing a change to the game design. Well thought out, for good reason (and I'm a wood elf using, shissar scale farming tailor), and most of all, it was communicated clearly up front, and all throughout the process of changing. Clearly answering any questions, so everybody is clear about what's going on. Sony, if you read this thread, this is and EXACT model of how to implement new code. Thank you Ngreth, your work is very much appreciated.