I played with DoDH research today, and this is what I found

[KyStromm]

Tried last night with 4 flasks of water and 5 empty poison vials, and got DNC.
So... which vials am I to use?

[Maevenniia]

Tried last night with 4 flasks of water and 5 empty poison vials, and got DNC.
So... which vials am I to use?

Empty Vial

This item can be Vendor Purchased:
Abysmal Sea
Viliani I`Xvoyt @ , in the hold
Lita Hegeway @ 122, -50, 96, in the hold
Uiyaniv Tu`Vrozix @ -191,229,96, in the hold
Jorlan Hegeway @ 137, -51, 96, in the hold
Bazaar
Sateal Deirosap @ 3, 15, In main merchant hall
High Keep
Grahm Embersmith @ 30, -270, Downstairs near the entrance to the mine
Katta Castellum
Bole Bricktop @ 55 -1537, From TM zone take first pathway on left, then next left, then next right then past first "gateway" in Lightning Blades Smithy/Second Skin Armory building
Neriak Commons
Treven Ru`Soe @ 50, -905, Inside Adamant Armor
North Freeport
Trudie Steelbone @ -30, 469, in Groflah's Forge
Plane of Knowledge
Kanio Paerk @ 13, 1365, Western trader building
Rathe Mountains
Ukla @ 1730, 1290, Ogre camp in western section. On DarkBargainers faction.
Zok Drup @ -1742, -47
Sanctus Seru
Melda Goldsmith @ -115, 1025
Wulan Goldsmith @ 10, 1030
Armorer Jaeron @ -920, 485
Shadow Haven
Smithy Edcar @ 123, 136
Smithy Firehand @ 40, 1306
Hardam Stonegrinder @ -306, 1460
South Qeynos
Caleah Herblender @ 315, -555, Inside The Herb Jar
Khensol Undesta @ 290, -620, Inside casters' guild
Steamfont Mountains
Godbin Strumharp @ 45, -615, Inside middle Windmill

[Xulan]

Finely ground salt is actualy Fine salts made by combining Rock salt in the research container.


I gathered all components, and I tried making 64 BST spell SD, by placing in the research container next things:

1) fine velium parchment - for 64 spells (trivial to clean a parchment is 216)
2) quill of the feral lord - for bst
3) ink of tunare - regen spells
4) talisman tickener - for group buffs

and i am still geting that i cant combine

anyone have any suggestion?

Namless ink additive. You may need extra ink to account for the mana regen as well, but not sure.

[marmaladeX]

Tried last night with 4 flasks of water and 5 empty poison vials, and got DNC.
So... which vials am I to use?

Use Empty Vials. Seems like you forgot the Gnomish Heating Source too...

I was successful making Pure Water.


Xulan, do you know what purpose the Additives are for? Its about the only piece of info that's missing from many people's accounts of what the new Research system is like. I know they're used in the recipes, but for instance Ro = Fire

Bertoxxulus = Disease
E'ci = Cold
Nameless = Buffs
Luclin =
Ro = Fire
Saryrn =
Veeshan =
Zebuxoruk =

[KyStromm]

According to the notes I took last night, Additives need to match the resist check that is performed when cast
Luclin = Magic
Saryn = Poison
Veeshan and Zeb are mentioned as existing, but without a known use

Thanks on the vials (and yeah, I forgot the heat <blush>

[Verdandi]

FYI There are lists of what the various sets of vendor ingredients are for, including additives, in the Spell Research 61-65 page.

[Xulan]

Use Empty Vials. Seems like you forgot the Gnomish Heating Source too...

I was successful making Pure Water.


Xulan, do you know what purpose the Additives are for? Its about the only piece of info that's missing from many people's accounts of what the new Research system is like. I know they're used in the recipes, but for instance Ro = Fire

Bertoxxulus = Disease
E'ci = Cold
Nameless = Buffs
Luclin =
Ro = Fire
Saryrn =
Veeshan =
Zebuxoruk =

KyStromm has it.

My guess is that Veeshan and Zeb are for chromatic and prismatic (dunno which would be which), but just a guess. The book says something like "for spells that resist in strange ways." So could be anything else as well =)

Nameless is more than just buffs, it's also for any unresistable spell (like Tash).

[KB1]

Ok, I am frustrated, I am being a simpleton i guess, but I cant even get a parchment cleansed, I combine parchment and cleanser, dnc, what am I doing wrong. I cant follow these instructions I guess.

[KB1]

Runic parchment solution
platinum bar
gold bar
star ruby
aqua regia + muriatic acid
vial pure water
heat source



This does not combine for me. Using new spell container.

[Arlian]

Runic parchment solution
platinum bar
gold bar
star ruby
aqua regia + muriatic acid
vial pure water
heat source



This does not combine for me. Using new spell container.

According to the books, it's two vials of pure water. There are a few spots where the writeup was wrong.

Fine parchment solution
Fire emerald
Aqua regia
3 gold bars
2 vials pure water
4 heat sources

Should read 2 gold bars.

[Rwauld]

If (and it's a big if) Horror (lvl 63 necromancer only form ldon) were researchable now, would this be about right?:

1) Velium Parchment [player made]
---a) Velium parchment soultuion
-----1) platinum bar [vendor]
-----2) 3 gold bars [vendor]
-----3) aqua regia
-------I) Vial of Muriatic Acid [vendor]
-------II) Aqua Fortis
----------a) Saltpeter
----------b ) Oil of Vitrol
-------------1) Saltpeter
-------------2) Crystallized Sulfur
-------------3) Vial of Pure Water (more subcombines)
-------------4) Gnomish Heat Source [vendor]
-----4) vial of pure water (more subcombines)
-----5) 3 heat sources
---b ) Cleaned Velium Parchment
-----1) Dirty Velium Parchment [mob dropped]
-----2 ) Celestial Cleanser [player made]
-------I) Celestial Solvent
-------II) 3x Vials of pure water (yield x5) [player made]
----------a) 4x water flasks [vendor]
----------b ) 5x 5 empty vials [vendor]
----------c) gnomish heat source [vendor]
-------III) Empty Vial
2) Quill of the Arch Lich (necro class quill) [player made]
---a) a quill [vendor]
---b ) arcane treatment [vendor]
---c) necrotic treatment [vendor]
3) Ink of Pain [player made]
---1) Hematite powder
---b ) Chromium powder
4) Ink of Druzzil Ro [player made]
---a) Logwood Pigment
---b ) Iron Powder
---c) Vial of Pure Water (yield 5x) [player made]
-----1) 4x water flasks [vendor]
-----2) 5x 5 empty vials [vendor]
-----3) gnomish heat source [vendor]
5) Extending Thickener [player made]
---a) 2x abmber
---b ) yarrow

Looks mostly correct, but I would consider the following: (used * to indicate modifications)
Vellum Parchment (lvl 63 spell)
Quill of the Arch Lich (necro only spell)
*Luclin's Ink Additive (Resist is VS MR)
Extending Thickener (Damage over Time)
Ink of Pain (Damage spell)
*Ink of Terris Thule (Curse spell +24curse counter)
-----The spell also has a -30 Mr check on it...so, it might be arguable that Ink of Druzzil may also be needed-----

Of course, this being an LDoN spell, it may not be combineable because it would be considered a 'quested' spell.

[Braeladin]

Fine parchment solution
Fire emerald
Aqua regia
3 gold bars
2 vials pure water
4 heat sources



this is wrong combine... right is:

fire emerald
aqua regia
2 gold bars
2 vials of pure water
4 heat sources

[Rezzy]

Does anyone know yet if LDoN spells are researchable now?

Thanks

[Taiqwon]

I tried to make Balance of the Nihil today (lvl 65 shm slow).

I tried combining

Runic Parchment + Ink of the Listless (slow) + Luclin's Ink Additive (mr resist) + Debilitating Thickener (Single Debuff) + Quill of the Prophet (SHM spell) + Ink of Bertoxxulous(disease counters).

I got a failed combine but it took it so I assme that's the recipe. If I can succeed on one I'll let you know.

[Braeladin]

I tried to make Balance of the Nihil today (lvl 65 shm slow).

I tried combining

Runic Parchment + Ink of the Listless (slow) + Luclin's Ink Additive (mr resist) + Debilitating Thickener (Single Debuff) + Quill of the Prophet (SHM spell) + Ink of Bertoxxulous(disease counters).

I got a failed combine but it took it so I assme that's the recipe. If I can succeed on one I'll let you know.

i was lucky to combine it
if it takes your components, then you got the right recepe