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  • Ngreth has posted that he's aware of this, but at the time, he said he wasn't sure if he really considers it a problem. You still have to do all the steps for each quest, so you're not bypassing content, and you still have to do the final combines and hand-ins in order, so you can't just jump ahead. The only difference is that you can choose the order in which you do the tasks, instead of being forced to do it linearly.
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    • Ok, on the Fletching task. I have a major problem.

      I created my three shadow boxes without any problem, then the server crashed and I wound up with one shadow box and two gemmed boxes. So I attempted to create my second box again and it crumbled. I petitioned and after three days without any action I gathered up three more gemmed boxes, deleted the first shadow box, and went to the altar. At midnight I attempted to make my first box again and it crumbled.

      Just what am I doing wrong?
      Last edited by gggrant; 12-06-2007, 01:05 PM.
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      • Originally posted by KyrosKrane View Post
        Ngreth has posted that he's aware of this, but at the time, he said he wasn't sure if he really considers it a problem. You still have to do all the steps for each quest, so you're not bypassing content, and you still have to do the final combines and hand-ins in order, so you can't just jump ahead. The only difference is that you can choose the order in which you do the tasks, instead of being forced to do it linearly.
        Thanks KyrosKrane. I took a look but couldn't find a response by the Ogre. Bad search terms = bad results.
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        • Originally posted by gggrant View Post
          Ok, on the Fletching task. I have a major problem.

          I created my three shadow boxes without any problem, then the server crashed and I wound up with one shadow box and two gemmed boxes. So I attempted to create my second box again and it crumbled. I petitioned and after three days without any action I gathered up three more gemmed boxes, deleted the first shadow box, and went to the altar. At midnight I attempted to make my first box again and it crumbled.

          Just what am I doing wrong?
          Hrm. I think I am goint to have to give Eron a way to reset you. Basically what has happened is that the flag for your caracter is set, and did not rollback despite the items themselves rolling back (I do not know why the flag did not also roll back)

          You can try another petition telling CS that your flags are set improperly becuase of a crash, but I do not know what their solution for it would be.
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          • Originally posted by Rundle Allnighter View Post
            Ngreth,

            Let me just say I've not confirmed this yet but I was told by a guildy that she was able to get all quests from Eron at once. She said all she had to do was /say smithing / fletching / baking / etc. I'm quite sure she had all of them because she was bouncing around group ideas (we could go here, or here, or here...) and they all coresponded to various steps in each. She settled on going to do the fishing / baking one by herself. She figured she would have to do the final turn-ins in order but she was going to work the rest out of order.

            I was under the impression that this was a progression type quest. Did something break or was this intended?
            And yeah, as Kyros said, I am not sure how big a deal it is.

            I may still decide to go in and script things up (the only good way to enforce it ) so that you have to do it in order, but frankly I do not want to.

            You definitely need the result of each task in order... in order to actually complete the task. Each of the final combines requires the results of a previous step. Except for maybe the baking/fishing task... there is no overlap on any of the tasks. They are all in different zones.
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            • Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn View Post
              Hrm. I think I am goint to have to give Eron a way to reset you. Basically what has happened is that the flag for your caracter is set, and did not rollback despite the items themselves rolling back (I do not know why the flag did not also roll back)

              You can try another petition telling CS that your flags are set improperly becuase of a crash, but I do not know what their solution for it would be.
              Ok, now another strange thought. I believe I am on the same server as Kristy. Is it possible that my actions trying to make the combines work may have affected her?

              I failed on creating my second box when the server came up. Later she comes along and tries to place the boxes and choose one. Is it possible (i.e., I started a script running), that my actions had an effect on her (and others on my server)?

              The reason I ask this is there appears to be two ways to die. One from a DD and one from some spawned MOb(s). I have not been dying. I try the combine and I fail. I stare at my computer screen and swear. I walk away and get a soda. I come back and go farm another box.
              Last edited by gggrant; 12-07-2007, 09:46 AM.
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              • I don't have any boxes left at all..

                3 days and counting on my petition now, how about Ngreth takes over CS service please...
                Im getting pretty frustrated about this whole thing, was looking forward to finish it. But doesnt seem like Im gonna be able to.
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                • Originally posted by gggrant View Post
                  Ok, now another strange thought. I believe I am on the same server as Kristy. Is it possible that my actions trying to make the combines work may have affected her?

                  I failed on creating my second box when the server came up. Later she comes along and tries to place the boxes and choose one. Is it possible (i.e., I started a script running), that my actions had an effect on her (and others on my server)?

                  The reason I ask this is there appears to be two ways to die. One from a DD and one from some spawned MOb(s). I have not been dying. I try the combine and I fail. I stare at my computer screen and swear. I walk away and get a soda. I come back and go farm another box.
                  Nope. it is a personal character flag.
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                  • For Tailoring, in the steam factory which mob(s) drops the steam suit hydraulic fluid? Been killing what I thought was the correct ones but no luck so far.

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                    • Anyone have tips on getting the boxes for the fletching step? Are the nameds soloable, or do they summon? Are the normal mobs soloable? And how many kills on average to get a box?

                      I had no luck farming brownies, but I killed the named Thistle one twice with a group and he dropped the box each time. I think he summoned.
                      Last edited by Zolina; 12-07-2007, 11:32 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by Zolina View Post
                        Anyone have tips on getting the boxes for the fletching step? Are the nameds soloable, or do they summon? Are the normal mobs soloable? And how many kills on average to get a box?

                        I had no luck farming brownies, but I killed the named Thistle one twice with a group and he dropped the box each time. I think he summoned.
                        All these named MObs summon, but don't appear to chain summon (they are sorta kinda kitable/root-rotable, gear/class dependent). All boxes drop from named (I have gotten them that way). All boxes drop from trash (I have gotten them that way, also). Named will drop them more often that the trash MObs (you can literally kill hundreds of trash before seeing a box, worst case on named I have seen is having to kill two).
                        Last edited by gggrant; 12-07-2007, 11:45 AM.
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                        • Originally posted by tank287 View Post
                          For Tailoring, in the steam factory which mob(s) drops the steam suit hydraulic fluid? Been killing what I thought was the correct ones but no luck so far.
                          steamsuits and enhanced steamsuits. enhanced steamsuits are usually higher level. these things have a couple tricks to throw at you (frontal AE, single target DD). a good camp is the far northeast corner room.

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                          • Originally posted by muvandog View Post
                            steamsuits and enhanced steamsuits. enhanced steamsuits are usually higher level. these things have a couple tricks to throw at you (frontal AE, single target DD). a good camp is the far northeast corner room.
                            Thanks very much!

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                            • Fletching Part

                              Currently working on the Fletching part and I must say it is daunting. The boxes themself aren't very easy to come by and the added confusion of combining said boxes gives me a headache.

                              My question before I do attempt it is this, does it matter which box you place in which part? Like must the box from Hills of Shade be placed first etc? There is a write up a few pages back that has a lot of helpful info and pretty much tells you exactly what to do, is it the general concensus that the information is correct?

                              I am all for trying new things but to be honest the time already invested in this part let alone all of the prior parts makes me hesitant to jump in and give it a shot.

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                              • Originally posted by RymeEM View Post
                                Currently working on the Fletching part and I must say it is daunting. The boxes themself aren't very easy to come by and the added confusion of combining said boxes gives me a headache.

                                My question before I do attempt it is this, does it matter which box you place in which part? Like must the box from Hills of Shade be placed first etc? There is a write up a few pages back that has a lot of helpful info and pretty much tells you exactly what to do, is it the general concensus that the information is correct?

                                I am all for trying new things but to be honest the time already invested in this part let alone all of the prior parts makes me hesitant to jump in and give it a shot.
                                The info was correct. Which box doesn't matter, but the order in which you drop them does. You have plenty of time to drop the boxes (following the rule of sun or overcast) and then count 1,2,3,1,2,3, based on the game time to then open the correct one. Just take your time.
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