Aid Grimel Quest - rough notes

[Shaman Arriana]

Not sure if this was an issue but:

I tried talking to him last night after the guild went on a rampage of killing.
I have: Valor/Storms, CoDecay (got last night), Tactics, Torment (TT down last night) access, and it wasn't enough. I'm 1 medallion away from BoT, and I'll probably be getting that before Bertox, so I'll see if the combination of all of that is enough.

[jugador]

its not, you need Bertox plain and simple

[Gorgin]

Just confirming stuff
Bertox for Smithing 100%, Washing and Tempering the BP both Trivial at 231 smithing, adding the Diamonds was NOT trivial.
Mithaniel Marr 100% for Brewing, the Final combine NOT trivial at 250 Brewing.
I believe it's Saryrn for JC 100% because I can't get that step even with 250 JC and she's the ONLY flag mob under Rallos Zek that I'm missing.

[Kronepsis]

Adding...

Thanks for the confirmations.

[Khoren Stonefall]

Saryrn.

I can guarentee you it's either Saryrn herself OR the completion of of the Tylis Newleaf script that you complete immediately after killing her in original plot order. Recall that when I did it, there was no way to kill Saryrn and get flagged and NOT be able to finish Tylis immediately after. Now, you can apparently get credit for her (see the last patch message) even out of plot order, and have Maelin plot-order your flaggage at your convenience.

I know this because I could not do the step, then I killed Saryrn, finished the Tylis script, and then went to see Aid Grimel, and he gave me step three. At this point, I could not do Step four. Then I walked two steps to the left and talked to Maelin ("I have information") and got flagged to enter the tower of Sol Ro (I had done all else before hand) and then immediately walked two steps back over to Aid Grimel, and he coughed up step four.

Now that you can (as I understand it) get Saryrn credit without being in original plot order (in which Tylis was ready to be finished immediately after the Saryrn flag was earned), we have to check.

The following test needs to be done by someone appropriately flagged:

Kill Saryrn. Get flag. DO NOT FINISH WITH TYLIS. Talk to Aid Grimel. Report result.
If there is no access to step three: Finish with Tylis. Talk to Aid Grimel. Report result.

My gut tells me it was Tylis, which, like step four is a synthesis flag ("I have information" puts together many achievements (RZ/TZ/Saryrn/MM) into one flag).

The fact that we can get credit out of plot order now vastly complicates these things. It's no longer as simple as saying "It's Bertoxx for this, and Saryrn for that." It's not 100% sure that we kill Bertoxx to get access to step one, since you can now technically (again, as I understand it) be credited for killing Bertoxx WITHOUT being able to finish the Elder Furstiel script immediately after. My money's on needing to complete these synthesis stages for most or all steps, which means for the purposes of this quest, we receive no benefit from getting kill credit out of plot order until we complete everything that we would have had to do originally.

[Demorgoth]

I know for a fact that the first step (Bertox) is reliant on the completion of the quest, rather than simply hailing the PP. I had killed Bertox, hailed the PP, and was unable to get the smithing quest. After running to the sick house, hailing the people there to complete their quests, and then running back to PoK, I was then able to get the smithing quest.

[Gorgin]

Saryrn flag is JUST saryrn, I got it tonight and deliberately did not finish the Newleaf sequence and recieved the JC portion of the quest with 250 JC.

[Gorgin]

heh got bored tonight and decided to get the brew barrel to see if it could be used to making anything BUT the twice brewed Kaladim. I tried Ale and low and behold it DOES work as a portable brewing container. It is only a 4 slot container so you can only do 4 slot combines in it but it would allow you to do field brewing if you want to make 4 slot drinks.
*edit* Just tried a Heady Kiola and it works for sure. Rejoice all you tailors you can make heady kiolas while you hunt assuming you have the flags to get the barrel....

[Niami DenMother]

Until a permissions problem is sorted out on the main site, this file isn't located where I want it to be, but I think I've got the most recent summary from this thread up on the site now ...

http://www.eqtraders.com/pop_aid_grimel.htm

Will edit this post when the above file is properly moved into the quests directory.

[Naedayr]

I have every flag up to Sol Ro, and he responds to I am a master chef. Unfortunately the text he gives stops in the middle of a word, and does not continue. This quest is not completable after tailoring, if baking is the next step. I have not done the tailoring portion as of yet, because I do not have the sol ro flag as of today. As soon as I get it, I'll test the text string.

It would be great if a developer could look at the master chef text with aid grimel, I've bugged it once already.

[Lizzzard]

It would be great if a developer could look at the master chef text with aid grimel, I've bugged it once already.

Its actually a much bigger bug ... ALL NPC text seems to be cut off after a certain length currently

[Kronepsis]

ah, the joys of winter vacation...

That's a very VERY nice thing to know about Gorgin. Thanks!

[Ainyan Dar`Mori]

Devs didn't realize that while GM-type chars can see full dialogues, regular play chars couldn't. A GM and I got together and confirmed it on a number of NPCs and she sent in a report to the devs, so hopefully after months of bugging this, they'll finally fix it because they have proof now.

[Mudcrush Durtfeet]

Smithing quest changed

My smithing was 217 with a 10% mod item...

It did NOT let me do the quest, he insulted my smithing skill.

I conjecture that he no longer considers your bonus trade skill items.

[Kronepsis]

Noted.

And modified.