Trade Skill Pattern Book Quest Issues

[Oshran]

Hello everyone. We at SOE are currently seeking to balance and refine the new trade skill pattern book quests across the board. Please reply to this thread with any issues you have noticed. Specifically, we would like to know if anyone has encountered a trade skill task in which the loot element was less than three quarters done when the kill element was completed (for example, after 80 of 80 spiders were killed, only 17 of 40 spider webs were looted). Your character race and the name of the trade skill task would be most helpful. I can't guarantee a quick fix, but I can say that within the next few weeks we hope to reexamine all trade skill quests to ensure they are on par with one another. Thanks,

Oshran-Dev

[Maevenniia]

Here is a link to Osharan's thread at EQLive forums

[tnexus]

Master Wood Elf Quest took a full group of chain killing of about 300 Grimlings in Acrylia before I got my 40 toes. Of course now that I did it, I don't know if I want to see it fixed =P. The drop rate of bonechips for the Wood Elf Expert book in CoM is also way underpar as it seemed to take about 4 hours to collect them solo.

[Kellan]

Human Master

The Human Master quests have two problems.

1) The Qeynos Master quest starts with kill 80 chetari/chelaki in DN and loot 4 Old Dragon Horns, while the Freeport version is kill 80 rats and loot TEN horns. Obviously one is incorrect.

2) The drop rate on Old Dragon Horns appears to have not been changed, and a player can easily finish the 80 kills with zero drops. This has been reported by several players in the serverwide.eqtraders channel over the weekend.

[Xulan]

Dark Elf quests seem very balanced with the drop rates to kills ratio.

[Sylphan]

The highelf quests are just about right, with the exception that characters high enough level to wear the augments aren't high enough to get the quest.

Some people may have trouble with second high elf quest, the one in Lower Guk, because not all ghouls drop the powder. None of the ghoul wizards do, and the wan ghoul knights don't seem to have any either. You could easily kill all 40 ghouls and still have zero drops. But once you figure out the right ghouls to kill there's more than enough drops.

[Dory]

Wood Elf Dismantling Golems task. Expert level at 60ish kills of 50 needed and 8 bone chip drops of 20 needed. Total time spent so far roughly 8 hours.

[Taadieri]

Wood Elf Dismantling Golems task. Expert level at 60ish kills of 50 needed and 8 bone chip drops of 20 needed. Total time spent so far roughly 8 hours.

Interesting. I was moderately annoyed to get only 7 plaguebones in an entire spawn from zi to castle, but am average over 1 bone chip per plagubone so far. One of us seems to be having unusual luck (either good or bad).

[Dyllwin]

Halfling Journeyman Symbol quest, took over 75 minotaur kills my first time around to get the axes required, but I got the Polished Bone Bracelet on my 10th Evil Eye. Interestingly enough when I did it a second time (don't ask ) I got the axes in 16 kills, but it took over 50 Evil Eyes to get the PBB.

[cattywumpus]

Vah Shir quests

I am a level 61 Vah Shir Shaman.

Journeyman's - Yelloweyes does not count as an owlbears, he really should. The Recondite Insignia Ring seemed unusually rare and did not drop in the first ten kills for me but I may have been unlucky.

Thoughts - Using the Recondite camps is a poorly thought out idea since a lot of players of higher level will be wanting to do this task and will be taking XP kills from level appropriate players. The shik nars would be a better choice since I rarely see anyone camping them and they are of similar difficulty.

Also the Jade Shards used for the Journeyman's level augment seem unusually rare for such a low level combine although I haven't hunted much for them personally but I never see them for sale in the bazaar or on vendors despite extensive searching.

Expert - Didn't see any issues except Lambent Stones drop most frequently from a highly contested critter (hill giants). Perhaps a different item might be used to reduce disagreements between players. Also the Lambent Stone seems too common for the level of difficulty expected of this level of combine.

Master - The Dark Skeleton Remains seemed a little too rare since I had to kill nearly 20 Sun Revenants to get one to drop and only needed 5 kills for the task but in this small a sample I may have just been unlucky again.

[Quigley]

Halfling Symbol Quests

Halfling Journeyman's Symbol quest to me appeared to be VERY distorted in the required number of Minotaurs to kill vs the drop rate of there axes. Additionally, the drop rate of the Polished Bone Bracelet for the final part of the quest also seemed to take a few (30+ kills extra) just to get one to drop.

Halfling Expert's Symbol quest to me seemed to be perfect in the ratio of dropped items versus killing the right mob.

Halfling Master's Symbol quest was almost to easy with getting the dropped items (bone chips) but I wouldn't recommend a change of it because this quest stilll took a long time to complete the required number of killings of the decaying solider's.

Halfling Ancestrial Book quest is fine for the drop rate once the fractured femur issue gets resolved (the quest giver wants the one from the quest skellie in Tox forest which took me 3+ hours to get)

Halfling Grandmaster Symbol quest - I can't do yet since I'm only level 68 so no comment on that.

Quigley
Drinal

[Kcalehc]

Teir`Dal Quests

Looking into Najena (Journeyman)
Fine on the number of Ogre guard kills, could even up the number of whoresbane needed, after the 20 kills I had 11 and only needed 4.
Magician and reagent pouch bit, spot on.

Looking into Soluseks Eye (Expert)
Number of gnomish miner kills reasonable, got 14 gnome meats when I had done the 50 kills, but only took 10 mins to get the rest so I was probably just unlucky to start with.
Number of CWG Model kills probably a bit easy, and the broken frost module seemed a little too rare (got a couple of other modules before the frost one dropped). But overall I think they were acceptable.
My only problem with this bit was the faction hit I had to take, would have prefered not to have done that, but can't be helped.

Haven't yet done Master level quest (Looking into Sebilis), but will be doing so shortly. Not high enough level for the Grandmaster level quest, but thats a topic on discussion elsewhere...

[Twistagain]

Master - The Dark Skeleton Remains seemed a little too rare since I had to kill nearly 20 Sun Revenants to get one to drop and only needed 5 kills for the task but in this small a sample I may have just been unlucky again.

Level 68 Vah Shir Beastlord here:

Journeyman: Killed my owlbears (only 7 in zone...killing 20 requires 2 respawns and running all over the whole zone, but not that big of a deal...at 68. At 20ish, it shouldn't be much worse. You'd just get some aggro from some of the fungal fiends without invis.) I have killed 28 owlbears so far. 0 pelts. I believe it is simply bad luck...but I moved on to the master quest.

Expert: Haven't done this yet, as I went straight to master.

Master: Adds were an annoyance here, but the Shimmering Rock Fiends weren't that bad...I got my 4th drop on my 40th Fiend...so it worked out perfect. On the Sun Revenants, I got the drop on my 1st. So I just killed 5.

No disagreement with your points...just some more data.

[Yizan_Pet_Pimpin]

Erutide Masters Quest, called "Siren's Call" I believe.

The task is to kill 80 Bulthar and loot 40 Bulthar Trunks. According to my logs, I had to kill well over 200 bulthar (logs say 237) over the course of three days to collect the required 40 Bulthar Trunks. It is entirely possible that I had a run of bad luck, but if SOE is looking into the quests anyway, I think this one could be one that needs to be looked into.

[Twistagain]

I've killed a lot of Bulthar in my life. I wouldn't say your experience is particularly bad luck. 1 in 6 seems about right.