The promised Fan Faire update

[Kaysha Soulsinger]

Originally posted by Sariss
** Hints to the quest will be obtained from the EQRPG books - I don't know which ones.

Umm, does this mean I will need to buy the RPG books to get the hints just for this quest (even though I have no intention of playing the RPG game), if I want to slave alongside my fellow crafters, or miss out and need to wait for the spoilers as there are no ingame hints?

Please tell me I'm wrong.

[Grenoble]

Hmm, I think an ornate codpiece should have a nice charisma boost.

[Rhaagan]

The Eqrpg Quests in the book are just things to give you an idea of where and what needs to be done to to start the quest and sometimes what item is needed to start the quest.The Grand Robe And Grand Tunic of the Oracle quests can be done without the tradeskill portion,but you will need your Velious breastpiece as part of the turn in to get the robe or tunic.Ther are actually two Phylacterys that can be made from the Tradeskill ,the regular Phylactery which is reccomended for melees and hybrids and the dark phylactery which is recomended for Necros.The Phylactery is a range item.

[Milry]

wonderful rundown on Fan Faire tradeskill discussion

Yes, thanks for the excellent update and explanations of what's around the corner. The tradeskill community is just the best!! Everyone is so clever and hardworking it just knocks me out!
And yes, definately a charisma boost on the codpiece! With augmentation slots.

[Veldin Darkfire]

Originally posted by Rhaagan
The Eqrpg Quests in the book are just things to give you an idea of where and what needs to be done to to start the quest and sometimes what item is needed to start the quest.The Grand Robe And Grand Tunic of the Oracle quests can be done without the tradeskill portion,but you will need your Velious breastpiece as part of the turn in to get the robe or tunic.Ther are actually two Phylacterys that can be made from the Tradeskill ,the regular Phylactery which is reccomended for melees and hybrids and the dark phylactery which is recomended for Necros.The Phylactery is a range item.

There are going to be a ton of Tradeskillers who will again be left out of these quests due to NOT having said bp or robe and if this Phylactery is only going to be hybred/melee/necro then the rest of the wis casters and int casters are again left out.

I really hope this is not the case. Many many guilds have "moved on" from ToV, Kael etc and just do not want to go back and are not likely to go raid for rare drops for some tradeskill quest where they will not recieve any sort of reward.

The great thing about the Solstice Earring was that anyone could wear it and that different tradeskillers were needed to make it, of course with aa tradeskill mastery now anyone can gm them all given time / plat.

Veldin

[Rhaagan]

You misunderstood the robe and tunic and the phylactery are dual quests but you don't need the velious bp's to due the tradeskill,at least if all the info the quest designer gave is correct.The phylactery is all/all so anyone can use it ,the designer just said it is better for those classes.There may be more future tradeskill quests in the future.Right now all of the other quests that are in and they have going in are regular quests.they are a couple behind in implementation, but there has been a quest in every book except for one so far and they have plans for one in almost every book.The quests vary from newbie level to high end.

[Rhaagan]

made one mistake in my post.The regular phylactery is reccomended for hybrids and the Dark phylactery is reccomended for melees and soloing necros.They are all/all and Range item.

[KyrosKrane]

So, if I'm understanding your post correctly, you have a choice.

1) You can get (or make) some tradeskill items and turn them in for the Robe, Tunic, Phylactery, or Dark Phylactery.

OR

2) You can turn in your Velious chest item for the Robe, Tunic, Phylactery, or Dark Phylactery.

Is this correct?

Do you know if you get a choice of items? With the Solstice earring, you could turn Xanthe's earring in to get a Solstice earring, or turn the Solstice back in to get a Xanthe's. A few other quests had this same "swap meet" functionality. I wonder if the new quest will be like that?

[Aethn]

The bigger question is how do you know all this information???

Where are you reading this? Please provide links, since you seem to have so much significant detailed information.

[Rhaagan]

Gettting all my information from Sorcery, the Eq RPG quests Designer from his posts on the Eqrpg forum and from the Eqrpg mailing list.No the tradeskill items wont get you the robe or tunic only by doing the quest which requires other items along with the velious bp's can you get the robe or tunic.Don't know yet about how the Regular and Dark Phylactery are made from the tradeskill.The exact details of the tradeskill portion of the quest haven't been revealed.

[Alkee]

more info from Fan Fare

Some more info from Fan Fare at
http://eq.crgaming.com/viewarticle.asp?Article=5199

Not all tradeskill related but these look interesting.




Can we see some kind of way to mass produce tradeskills?

It is possible that you may at some point be able to drag 20 Silver Bars and 20 Rubies and hit combine 20 items to produce items which go straight into your backpack. This is one of the changes to tradeskills we are considering.


Is there any way GM made items could be better than say a Master?

We are looking into a system to perhaps add extra stats to an item on a master combine.


Sounds interesting, what do you guys/gals think?

Cheers

[Aldane]

Research drops are pretty generic and not really zone-specific. Parts that drop off of a mob of a given level should drop off of mobs of that same level in other zones

I wonder if they kept a straight face when they said this. If this is the actually how SOE intends spell research drops to work, they really need to go back, take a long, hard look at some of the mob drop tables, and do some adjusting.

For instance, I was in the Grey the other day killing some time...and some shimmering rockfiends (annoying things like to add to my other pulls from a country mile away). Well, much to my surprise, one of the stony buggers dropped a research page (don't remember which one, but it was for a spell in the low-50s). Then I looked at Illia's Beastiary and found they were in the 50-51 level range, so I guess it made sense that they would drop a research component for a spell in that range.

On the other hand, I have been thinning the population of goranga scouts in the Maiden's Eye on and off for about a couple of months now. The scouts seem to range from around level 52 to around level 56 or 57 or so. Yet, the only research drops I ever get from them are words of bondage, runes, etc...stuff for pre-50 research. Likewise, there are several other mobs in the mid-50s that I gank on a regular basis without seeing a single high-end research drop.

So, either something is amiss on some loot tables, something has gone awry between the Devs' intentions and execution of their intentions, or I'm just misunderstanding matters entirely (which wouldn't be a first, I assure you).

Aldane Aglond
Ayonae Ro

[Moraganth]

In the begining...

There are 2 different types of research drop tables... old research, and new research. I can't think of any time i've noticed a zone dropping from both tables, but that's nothign deffinative.. half the time i don't look for old research components. I make the assumtion, that a zone is one or the other, if peopel will start looking at that, and see if they notice a zoen that's both.. we can figure that out in no time.

That said, not every 50+ mob is on the new reseach table... for some reason. And, yes, some mobs have skewed tables.. genoids in Wakening drop the same components the genoids in CC drop..... and for an 8k hp mob, that's a bit off. Research was never a very importnat thing to Verant, in fact when kunark came out, they purposely did not continue with their research pattern.

It doesn't suprise me that a LOT of the pre-Loy zones have incorrect research tables.

[eniamn]

The Eqrpg Quests in the book are just things to give you an idea of where and what needs to be done to to start the quest and sometimes what item is needed to start the quest.The Grand Robe And Grand Tunic of the Oracle quests can be done without the tradeskill portion,but you will need your Velious breastpiece as part of the turn in to get the robe or tunic.Ther are actually two Phylacterys that can be made from the Tradeskill ,the regular Phylactery which is reccomended for melees and hybrids and the dark phylactery which is recomended for Necros.The Phylactery is a range item.

now split it up a bit for clarity.

The Grand Robe And Grand Tunic of the Oracle quests can be done without the tradeskill portion,but you will need your Velious breastpiece as part of the turn in to get the robe or tunic.

Ther are actually two Phylacterys that can be made from the Tradeskill ,the regular Phylactery which is reccomended for melees and hybrids and the dark phylactery which is recomended for Necros.The Phylactery is a range item.

see robe tunic from velious bp and phylactery from tradeskills

what about the wis and non-necro int casters??

[Raienya]

I really hope they fix that crap with half elves not being able to make cultural armor. I have a half elf paladin, and have always been of the mind that their culture would reflect their city of upbringing. My paladin, who worships MM and started in Freeport, would have a more human culture than say a Tunare worshipping paladin that started in Felwithe, who would have a more elven cultural upbringing.

I also hope they do bridge the gap in higher end tailoring, but I guess that will remain to be seen.