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**Misery5450** · 07-05-2006, 01:44 AM

I noticed my Smithing trophy isnt evolving either. I dont have the hammer, so I doubt that that is the cause.

All of my other trophies are leveling just fine, so I think its just the smith that might be bugged.

Mine is currently masters trophy set at 0%. Done plenty of combines on it, and would have expected 3-4% by now. At least when comparing to equivalent tailoring growth.

**Pootle** · 07-05-2006, 03:31 AM

Hmmm, was just about to start on the long shadowscream stage of my smithing, if my trophie is bugged maybe i will wait.

**Kahmon** · 07-05-2006, 05:22 AM

If you reach a level 6 trophy before you reach 300 skill then it stops learning til you reach 300

**tatanka7th** · 07-05-2006, 06:46 AM

Shadowscream has been evolving my trophy. Both before and after the last patch.

Tat

**Dutchy** · 07-05-2006, 07:25 AM

From the Master level gear only the BP and Legs have a 300+ trivial.
I have the lvl 6 smithing throphy as well and it's leveling, although it's going pretty slowly. Got 1% on it earlier this week after a row of GM symbols.

**Ngreth Thergn** · 07-05-2006, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by wayshaper

ok, maybe im doing something wrong

1) hammer of the ironfrost in main hand (+15% mod)
2) lv 6 smithing trophy in off hand (+12%, evolved 0%)

did a bunch(just over 100) of combines master and grandmaster combines and gm augs

smithing tophy is still at 0% evolved

is the ironfrost screwing with things since the items were trivial with it equiped?

What is your **Base** un-modified skill?

**Burkin** · 07-06-2006, 11:16 PM

Got Freshman Trophy at 199 skill - 98% evolved- hit 200 and then 201 and hasnt budged an inch- still only 98% and freshman with skill over 200

**Prexis** · 07-07-2006, 12:08 AM

Got Freshman Trophy at 199 skill - 98% evolved- hit 200 and then 201 and hasnt budged an inch- still only 98% and freshman with skill over 200

There are some things that would affect this.

-Which trophy is it? (which trade skill)
-Have you had the trophy equipped while doing these combines?
-In the Inventory window on the Evolving Items tab, does this trophy show that it is active (must be equipped to see this)
-Have all of your combines been non-trivial?
-What is the trivial of the combines you have been skilling up on?
-How many non-trivial combines have you done since getting the trohpy?

**Carmaris** · 07-07-2006, 12:35 AM

At 98% evolved, I wouldn't think that the number of combines would matter a whole lot--my cleric's baking trophy was at 98% when he dinged 200, next non-trivial combine evolved the trophy and put him at 3%.

Another thing to consider (if I understand things correctly) is that your skill has to be within 100 points of the item trivial for the trophy to get experience. So, if at 201 skill, you're doing combines with a trivial of 302+, there will be no experience gained on the trophy.

Conversely (and this is purely subjective, only have baking & brewing trophy for myself, baking for my cleric), it seems to me that the closer the item trivial is to your current skill level, the less experience is gained per combine.

**Aldier** · 07-07-2006, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by Carmaris

Conversely (and this is purely subjective, only have baking & brewing trophy for myself, baking for my cleric), it seems to me that the closer the item trivial is to your current skill level, the less experience is gained per combine.

This is because the trophy gains experience equal to the trivial of the combine you are attempting (assuming it fits the prior constraints you mentioned). So yes, a combine that is at the top end of the range trivial wise will advance it faster than those closer to your trivial. However, you have to balance that with the fact that closer to trivial combines will have a higher rate of success and thus could outpace a far more difficult combine.

There was a good bit of data collected in the 300+ range on evolving the trophies to level 7 in which it shows that the low 300 trivials took a lot more combines than the 330s and still fewer (more round numbers of what was estimated) for the 350+ combines.

**Ilona** · 07-07-2006, 04:06 AM

I'm just a little frustrated. My druid hit 300 tailoring recently, and her expert's trophy was only at 60-something percent. I've since done quite a few combines of old cultural, master's bp/legs and some GM items, and it seems to be gaining at 1% per combine. Frustrating, since it will take about 25 combines to get to master's level, and from experience on my chanter, the master's one takes about 4 combines per %. So the combines that I have to do to get it to master's level could have got it about 6% of the master's trophy

**Ndaara** · 07-07-2006, 04:31 AM

it is frustrating for sure. both trophy quests completed prior to the trophy being set to your skill level.

Tailoring trophy, acquired at tailoring skill 254.
** trophy = 0% at tailoring 254
** 300 skill = 46% trophy
** 43 GM symbol combines later = level 6 trophy
** bout 4 combines of symbols = 1% toward level 7 trophy

Smithing trophy, acquired at smithing skill 288.
** trophy = 0% at smithing 288
** 300 skill = (oh dear, i did not record it!) unknown trophy %!
** 71 GM symbols, GM moonglade, and mistletoe sickles = level 6 trophy
** bout 4 combines of symbols/armor = 1% toward level 7 trophy

i was getting 1-2% per successful combine on my smithing trophy, post 300 smithing skill, while trying to get it to level 6. i had no idea how slowly it was going to progress toward level 7 =p i thought it was bugged when it was only getting 1-2%. they both got there eventually though. and my current policy on tradeskills is, NO SKILLING if it's ONLY for the sake of skill. i ONLY combine for a reason these days (although i can get pretty creative on my reasons).

mostly just posting my results because i assume my results are typical. if your trophy is progressing like this, it's the way it's supposed to go. frustrating yes... but it gets there eventually!

**Burkin** · 07-07-2006, 06:51 AM

I was posting in response to the broken smithing trophy- smithing trophy is broken- I lvled up tinkering without a problem- once I hit 300- almost every combine evolved the trophy- with smithing hit 200 and am now at 204 and hasnt evolved once !! still a freshman trophy at 98% - was making sickles (trivial 335) so maybe that is why it hasn't evolved

**Gorse** · 07-07-2006, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Burkin

I was posting in response to the broken smithing trophy- smithing trophy is broken- I lvled up tinkering without a problem- once I hit 300- almost every combine evolved the trophy- with smithing hit 200 and am now at 204 and hasnt evolved once !! still a freshman trophy at 98% - was making sickles (trivial 335) so maybe that is why it hasn't evolved

Yes, that is why your trophy has not evolved. It will start evolving again once your skill reaches 235.

Or, you could do Enchanted Velium Bits for a while. They trivial at 222, ar eeasy to farm and a lot cheaper than MCS.

Gorse

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