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    Question.. will all the items now rendered ' obsolete' have thier ' this item is used in tradeskills' tag removed anytime soon?. Items such as all 3 types of silkworms, draconic essences, sky vines etc all still bear the ' tradeskills ' tag even though all recipes for thier use are now ' obsolete" Removing these tags may help in some of the confusion over which items are still used in something or can just be wrote off as vendor items now.
    Last edited by Maevenniia; 11-14-2006, 06:46 PM.

  • #2
    I don't have time to look them up, and don't consider it a high enough priority at this time to put this over other fixes and additions.

    But if you give me an actuall complete list, I will remove the tag.
    Ngreth Thergn

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    • #3
      Just looking at the forage and possible mob drops for the DON zones themselves i came up with the list below. All the ingrediants below are former Alchemy ingrediants that after checking the recipes are now deemed ' obsolete' and are no longer listed as used in any recipes anymore.

      Basilisk saliva
      Blue Nightwort
      Burnberry
      Cryptanthus
      Deadly Ivy
      Draconic essence
      Drake Saliva
      Firefly
      Luminious ivy
      Marsg Algae
      Mature Drake Saliva
      Mature Silkworm
      Nettle Creeper
      Pitcher plant
      Silkworm
      Silkworm Larva
      Skyvine
      Spiny fruit
      Starshine moss

      And i appreciate your response and i know its not high priority. I only really gave this some thought after a rather heated conversaiton occured in the bazaar the other day over the Mature silkworms. A person was /ooc Mature silkworms for sale etc. and when it was pointed out that they are no longer used, the arguement then was that they must be as they still had the tradeskill tag and a recipe was listed here for them. When i pointed out the recipe was also Obsolete, i was sent tells by no less then 2 folks asking what that meant. Yes i know.. it made me *sigh* also. Anyways.. that incident is what prompted me to suggest the removal of the tag itself, to alieviate any confusion some may have.

      It really looks as if it mainly effected the DON alchemy drops/forages.

      Thank you very much

      Dracthia SoulBlazer

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      • #4
        If those items are not longer needed can we get them removed from the drop/forage tables??

        Those were added JUST for the alchemy recipes but since they are no longer needed why not just remove them from the game period.

        DON forage tables are huge basically because of those alchemy drops.
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        • #5
          Alternately, they could always be reserved for future recipes....

          ex:
          -extract silk from silkworms (coarse silk, preferably )
          -use saliva as a new tanning agent or in a new smithing temper
          -firefly...hmmm...new fishing lure?
          -other stuff like herbs...possible poison ingredients?
          -etc
          Master Artisan Maevenniia the Springy Sprocket Stockpiler of the really long name
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maevenniia
            Alternately, they could always be reserved for future recipes....

            ex:
            -extract silk from silkworms (coarse silk, preferably )
            -use saliva as a new tanning agent or in a new smithing temper
            -firefly...hmmm...new fishing lure?
            -other stuff like herbs...possible poison ingredients?
            -etc
            i definitely like your take on this matter, in addition, we now have a recipe for the combo of wild blueberries and wild crimson berries, neither of which had the tradeskill tag
            occasionally arryl

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            • #7
              If they are reserved for use in future recipes maybe in a search on the items they could result in the * no known recipes for this item at this time " screen. This would possibly require the removal of the obsolete recipes. Which isnt a hard list to find as if you do a search for the word Obsolete it brings up the list of them all. That way they could retain the tag ingame for future use, but when searched show no known use at this time. Just an idea.

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              • #8
                That would work. And I do like the idea of making fishing lure out of the flies. Firefly would offer something nice like +10% to fishing. After all in real life fish tended to get attracted to pretty blinking lights.

                When EQTrader is changed to show obsolete ts, it should keep the references to original recipe (via "Find recipies that uses this item") for old time's sake but make a note in red letter that there is no current use for these items. And for all obsolete recipies make big red note that the recipies are no longer in game.

                Ngreth- if you choose to change in game or remove the obsolete items, do double-check and make sure it is really obsolete. It would probably be easier to just leave them in for possible future uses.

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                • #9
                  I like the idea of leaving them in game for future use but maybe remove the "Used in tradeskills" tag for now to ease confusion and maybe ease the forage table, so the things that are forageable and needed (like I don't know Red Cups) would be easier to forage .

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                  • #10
                    While there might be something out there to discover still, all the forages that were used to make the (now removed) calming fluid are still tagged for tradeskills with no other use listed.
                    dessicated fruit
                    dessicated vegetables
                    dessicated berries
                    dessicated roots
                    mana infused pod of water
                    ancient pod of water

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                    • #11
                      ack. yup. need to get them too. at least those are edible.
                      Ngreth Thergn

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                      • #12
                        Who really wants to drink a mana-infused pod of water? /evil grin
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                        • #13
                          Tagged sticky by me... will remove the sticky it when I am done with it
                          Ngreth Thergn

                          Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
                          Grandmaster Smith 250
                          Master Tailor 200
                          Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bobaten
                            While there might be something out there to discover still, all the forages that were used to make the (now removed) calming fluid are still tagged for tradeskills with no other use listed.
                            dessicated fruit
                            dessicated vegetables
                            dessicated berries
                            dessicated roots
                            mana infused pod of water
                            ancient pod of water
                            On second thought... I did not remove the Calming Fluid... so it is still part of a combine. A useless one, but still part of a combine.
                            Ngreth Thergn

                            Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
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                            Master Tailor 200
                            Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dracthia Soulblazer

                              Blue Nightwort
                              Marsg Algae
                              Nettle Creeper
                              These 3 are still used.
                              Ngreth Thergn

                              Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
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                              Master Tailor 200
                              Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

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