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    Past theories by others and recent comments by our good friend and resident Beer God, Brodder have lead me to believe (for certain) that hot sauce is a seperate item that will be used in multiple recipes, both brewing and baking. Maybe this was obvious to some, but ya know what...working 17 hour days and going home to a 1 month old screaming child that won't let you sleep for more than a couple hours at a stretch makes one tired. Too tired to be either smart or insightful.

    Recent comments by Mr. Foamymugs:

    "Once I get info from yall on fan faire and NPC goes in for LEWENA and proper clues I might drop off the recovered sections of the emails with dan enright on Dah Brodder's revenge, Ogre Chili Pie, Nagafen/Dragon Chili, and how to make hotsauce...."

    This pretty much tells us that hot sauce is a seperate recipe. I believe hot sauce recipes were talked about in one of the previous major Brodder's Revenge threads, but never really pursued to any real extent. I think it is time to do so.

    "NOW THAT LOOKS PROMISING!!

    But where's the garnish? Mug of Ale and Hot Sauce???

    **whistles innocently**

    and why would ye put a mug into another container??

    *Humms and kicks several slumbering gnomes off his overstuffed eazy chair*

    So yall miss me?"


    More clues for Brodder's Revenge. Garnish is obvious, but Mug of Ale confuses me a tad. We've been trying various ale's, but not all of them use a mug for the icon graphic, but rather a bottle or something else (2B2SDA for example). This either indicates that the item in the recipe is an actual mug or we are reading way too much into "Mug Ale" and the ingredient is plain old simple Ale (which has a mug graphic). Also the comment about another container pretty much shoots down cask, bottles, and shotglasses. The mug of ale is the container. We're mixing other various ingredients with the ale to produce the "Revenge" effect (think along the lines of a Boilermaker or Rocky's egg yolk concoction from the movie).

    Oh and yes Brodder, we missed you dearly.

    But I'm meandering away from the focus here. Hot sauce. We have obviously been barking up the wrong tree by trying to combine Brodder's Revenge using peppers directly. The above quote again leads to the fact that hot sauce is a seperate recipe. The question again is whether or not it is brewed or baked. When I make hot sauce myself, it is done with jars, blenders and a pot on the stove. As I finished typing that last line I realized how pointless it was as it could still indicate both baking and brewing.

    Common ingredients I use when making hot sauce (some borrowed from other recipes of course):

    Habanero
    Jalapeno
    Garlic
    Onion
    Orange Juice
    Salt
    Oregano
    Cayenne
    Tomato/Tomato sauce
    Vegetable oil

    Naturally there are those who will add different items to spice up or add flavor to their own sauces, but above are the basic "base" ingredients you will find in most good hot sauces.

    I couldn't find in-game items for Jalapeno, Onion, Oregano, Cayenne, or a tomato base. Taking from the ingredients above and what I know are in-game, here are some possible hot sauce recipes. Also when testing these as a brewing recipe, all will be combined with a bottle as I can't imagine someone trying to keep hot sauce in a shotglass or a keg.

    In a brew barrel:

    Habanero + Vegetable oil
    Habanero + Ground garlic + Vegetable oil
    Habanero + Ground garlic + Bag of Sea Salt
    Habanero + Ground garlic + Bag of Sea Salt + Vegetable oil
    Habanero + Bag of Sea Salt + Vegetable oil

    Also, Magelo has an item (#22559) "Flask of Orange Juice". I have never run across this item myself and don't know where it comes from or if it is combinable, but since I use orange juice in my homemade hot sauces it's worth a look:

    Habanero + Vegetable oil + Flask of Orange Juice
    Habanero + Ground garlic + Vegetable oil + Flask of Orange Juice
    Habanero + Ground garlic + Bag of Sea Salt + Flask of Orange Juice
    Habanero + Ground garlic + Bag of Sea Salt + Vegetable oil + Flask of Orange Juice
    Habanero + Bag of Sea Salt + Vegetable oil + Flask of Orange Juice

    I am not at home at the moment so I am not entirely sure which of the above items are tagged as combinable and which aren't. I will test these recipes when I get home tonight. If someone else would like to test them sooner than that and report back here, feel free.

    I have a feeling that the salt and OJ are not part of the in-game recipe, but I had to include them as I use them in my own recipes. Gut feeling, but I believe the hot sauce recipe is going to be (or at least be very close to):

    Habanero + Ground garlic + Vegetable oil + Bottle

    Like I said, I will test these tonight when I get home unless someone else decides to test them today and reports back here. Comments and ideas welcome.
    Stugein
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  • #2
    Also, Magelo has an item (#22559) "Flask of Orange Juice".
    We actually have the recipe in the database:

    Components: emerald orange(2), water flask
    In: brew barrel
    Yield: 5
    Trivial: 35

    Brodder's Baking Hint Brodder actually talks about Hot Sauce... or at leasts hints that he had created a recipe and it -might- be in the game.

    And since he posted it in the Baking section... likely a baking recipe (Mixing Bowl)?
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    • #3
      and the hot sauce cannot use the foraged habanero peppers due to his pre-Velious references of this recipe, and the peppers are PoP.
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      • #4
        Brodder has posted in the Baking forum about hot sauce. Maybe it's a baked combine, not a brewed one?

        I did take a stab at tabasco sauce a few times, and I posted some ideas somewhere about how that would be made. I remember digging up a site that described the process of making Tabasco (yes, the commercial stuff) as fermentation, which would lead me to think it's brewing ... but this is EQ, after all.

        Edit: OK, I'm stupid. Either Krazick edited the post above while I was typing, or I utterly misread it and didn't see the link to the other URL. Just ignore me.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Krazick
          We actually have the recipe in the database:

          Components: emerald orange(2), water flask
          In: brew barrel
          Yield: 5
          Trivial: 35

          Brodder's Baking Hint Brodder actually talks about Hot Sauce... or at leasts hints that he had created a recipe and it -might- be in the game.

          And since he posted it in the Baking section... likely a baking recipe (Mixing Bowl)?
          Oh, yay on the orange juice. The item image that I was looking at didn't list it as a drink/consumable so I didn't think it was an actual drink or player-made. I must be more diligent in my searching in the future.

          I will also try the hot sauce recipes in an oven and a mixing bowl when I get home tonight (again, unless someone beats me to it and lets us know). If it is indeed a baking combine, this may also shoot down a bottle in the recipe (or does it *cue suspense music*).
          Stugein
          66 Grave Lord of Innoruuk
          Fennin Ro

          Why did the ranger cross the road?
          Because the chicken had him at 10%.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tinile
            and the hot sauce cannot use the foraged habanero peppers due to his pre-Velious references of this recipe, and the peppers are PoP.
            I am going to roll with Habanero anyhow. At very least it will fail and I will have discounted them completely. There is the possibility that the hot sauce was added more recently (since PoP) than the rest of the discovered Brodder recipes. We have seen several cases in the past where and item/npc/clue/etc. was alluded to but not actually in-game for a long time for whatever reason (*sniff* all those wasted months trying to find that cursed Ironforge girl). Also, I may have been lax in my searching again but I cannot find any other type of pepper in the game. If the recipes do not work with Habanero, I will try them again with regular Spices or maybe Hot-n-Spicy Toelings in it's place. I will try to think of other possible ingredients as well that would give a kick to some sauce.
            Stugein
            66 Grave Lord of Innoruuk
            Fennin Ro

            Why did the ranger cross the road?
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            • #7
              Re: Hot Sauce

              Originally posted by Stugein
              When I make hot sauce myself, it is done with jars , blenders and a pot on the stove. As I finished typing that last line I realized how pointless it was as it could still indicate both baking and brewing.
              Anyone check the pottery jar recipes, to see if they are usable in tradeskills?
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              • #8
                Re: Re: Hot Sauce

                Originally posted by Zuklaak
                Anyone check the pottery jar recipes, to see if they are usable in tradeskills?
                They are. One of the tinker subcombines is 2 clockwork grease in a small jar, to make a Jar of Clockwork Grease. IIRC it's a no fail combine.
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                • #9
                  One might look to one of the ogre's favorite brewing ingredients to help with making hotsauce...

                  And even though tomatoes are considered fruit, they might also be considered a veggie by many...

                  Peppers and spices... one or other or maybe both...

                  But I don't know how it was changed... that's upto current trade skill guru...I've been outta SOE loop for a weee bit.

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                  • #10
                    Ogre swill + veggies + habanero + spices ???

                    Cannot try it now but will give it a shot later today, in a brew barrel, oven and mixing bowl since Brodder dumped the clue in the Baking Forum.

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                    • #11
                      Just FYI, I tried the combinations from my original post above in a brew barrel (with and without a bottle), a mixing bowl, and a spit. All were DNC. The exception to this was the orange juice included combines. I couldn't find anybody selling Emerald Oranges.

                      My jealousy of those that can forage continues to grow.
                      Stugein
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brodder FoamyMugs
                        One might look to one of the ogre's favorite brewing ingredients to help with making hotsauce...

                        And even though tomatoes are considered fruit, they might also be considered a veggie by many...

                        Peppers and spices... one or other or maybe both...

                        But I don't know how it was changed... that's upto current trade skill guru...I've been outta SOE loop for a weee bit.

                        OK if we take these hints as non-misleading...

                        Ingredients of Ogre Swill: cask, froglok meat, malt, yeast
                        or
                        Ingredients of Skull Ale: cyclops skull, short beer, spices, vinegar

                        Tomatoes - Fruit or Veggie... but since no Tomato, then actually take a "Fruit"

                        Pepper - Habanero Pepper

                        Spices - Either "Spices" or "Algae Spices"... I think Algae Spices since it is a Cobalt Scar (aka Velious) item.

                        So try:

                        Froglok Meat + Fruit + Habanero Pepper
                        Froglok Meat + Fruit + Spices
                        Froglok Meat + Fruit + Spices + Habanero Pepper
                        Froglok Meat + Fruit + Algae Spices
                        Froglok Meat + Fruit + Algae Spices + Habanero Pepper

                        Vinegar + Fruit + Habanero Pepper
                        Vinegar + Fruit + Spices
                        Vinegar + Fruit + Spices + Habanero Pepper
                        Vinegar + Fruit + Algae Spices
                        Vinegar + Fruit + Algae Spices + Habanero Pepper

                        Try in Mixing Bowl/Spit... Brew Barrel with Cask/Shotglass/Bottle/Nothing

                        (Why Skull Ale? Seems like an Ogre-ish type drink to me).
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                        • #13
                          When he mentioned Ogre type ingredient, the first thought to this wee Ogre brain was vinegar.
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                          • #14
                            Just look at a bottle of Tabasco Sauce(tm).

                            Only 3 ingredients ... Tabasco Peppers, Vinegar, Salt.

                            From a spot on glorious Food TV, they even showed how the sauce was made.

                            Peppers were ground up with salt, then casked with vinegar to ferment for 3 years before bottling.

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                            • #15
                              i noticed this too.... i tried putting habanero peppers and various salts (bag of sea salts, the foraged salt, saltpeter and spices) in a morter and pestle all DNC.... but i didnt try allspice

                              i also read that you can fry them up.... so in an oven did the same combines with a non stick frying pan. didnt have the reg frying pan though.

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