KSers.

[Unidin]

My first lost corpse was trying to find Halas. I thought the run through Blackburrow would be the hard part. The Vengeful Lyricyst got me

[Eumerin]

Even the low level people you see there today are there for farming, so they can sell the silks/leaves in bazaar, good plan for easy money at almost any level.

They're probably there for both the farming AND the experience. Sure, the experience flies in Paludal, but the cash is pretty much non-existent. Sure, I can twink my alt with a nice infusion of cash from my main, but as I'm a cash poor paladin, I'm reluctant to do that. I'd much rather let my alts earn their own cash as they level up, and thus Paludal is largely off-limits.

And I'm probably not the only one who thinks that way, either.

[Delfontes]

The Vengeful Lyricyst

My first... second... 3rd... 4th.... etc. death in EQ were to the various Lyricysts.

Just cruel cruel world to have them there, for my first character being a Barb Warrior.

Today, when I am near Halas, the Lyracysts get an Ice Comet... If I could cast it again on the corpse, I would.

Then I'd kick it, repeatedly.

[Lothay]

I did have to find the Halas ramp by chance. The clip plane was set to defaults for all zones, and was not-user set. There were no maps, the game had only been out for 4 days.

And when they added the vengefuls, we all screamed bloody murder.

But hey, it was fun.

~Lothay

[sumamael]

My first char was a barbarian shaman.
He was blind as a bat, everfrost was as dark as the inside of a black cat and there were big monsters lurking in the dark.

So I made a dark elf necro, at least he could see in the dark

Funny, if I didn't start back then before the human vision fix and the not leaving equipment on newb corpses on death feature but recently then I would be still probably playing a barbarian shaman.

[Cigarskunk]

Me. I did several levels in EK becuase there were plentiful mobs and merchants.

Lothay... I hope you'll take no offense if I clarify...

No one this century is leveling up in EK unless it is an alt/forage bot/farmer.

Guess I'm from a different century then - all three of my characters have viewed EK as premo hunting grounds -

Gorge hounds are great XP
Bandits are wonderful faction and nice plat for thier level
Snake fangs sell for 4gp each to vendors - again, nice loot for a non-twink
Spiders make good XP as well and one can sell the silk to the pharmers (or atleast the resonable ones - "I'll give you 5gp per silk and you should consider yourself lucky to get that much!" - LOL)

As for the claims of druids going anon to avoid port begs - LOL - it's not just druid pharmers - it's all pharmers for the most part.

I've sent the red anons tells on many occasions asking what brings them to this zone full of greens and is there any particular drop that they were looking for - they almost never respond - sounds like shame to me.

I see SKs, rogues, bards, necros, warriors and other classes that really don't have something that someone is going to pester them for 24/7 totally anon while happily pharming a given zone or camp. The only time my SK ever goes anon is if he's being "snuck" into a group or raid - otherwise, if I'm pharming for personal use or profit, I'm more than happy to admit to anyone who wants to call me on it why I'm there and a good chunk of the time, I even end up helping the person do whatever they need to do (I killed the spider queen in CC 7 times while pharming crystaline silk to skill up tailoring just to help out a single player or group that wanted to do the sceptor quest).

[Gargazon]

I wasn't anon, there are way too many mobs for one person two boxing to keep dead. I never ksed anyone, and the people I am upset with are the ones who continued to take mobs from me after I specifically told them what I was doing, that I didn't need there help, and would they please stop taking mobs out of what was obviously a pull.

Next, if that warrior/druid couldn't kill Tarbul then thats their problem. however, it's not the closest thing you have ever done to training someone, you DID TRAIN them.

Let me explain. You watched them, saw their pull pattern, and not only placed a mob directly in their path, out of the way where it could not be easily seen until they aggroed it, you actually spawned it in the first place. If a GM had seen you, he could have banned you on the spot and never been questioned. Trust me, before we even had hills to walk up and down, much less something as pretty as snow to walk through. We had legal ksing. This was where you could get something down to 51% and then a wizard could stand up, nuke it once, and get the kill, then go inviso again, and do it to the next warrior while you sat there for forever trying to regenerate HPs. If however, you trained them...including stuff like you mentioned, they could get you banned. Period. So you had to be creative when you did it.

I, for instance, would always find some nice caster to see inviso me, get an sow and get another warrior, have him engage the mob while I built up a train...I mean pulled more mobs for us to kill, and then when the wizard stood up to nuke it, my partner would run for the zone, while I would run up to the wizard and yell HELP HELP HELP!!!!!!!!!!

Wizards are kinda squishy.

Usually everyone cheered, since this was the guy who had been ksing everyone else for hours too. In fact, I was usually able to send tells to every single person (warning them that I was trying to pull through a certain area, and they might want to be careful in case "I MESSED UP THE PULL") and get offers to help, since they had been shouting that this guy was ksing and you should stay away from him.

You had to yell help help help though, since there was usually an inviso GM watching the guy, looking for any excuse to take action, because they had had so many complaints over him. I know this, because I had several of them send me tells saying that they were glad I had asked him for help, because otherwise they might have thought I was training him, instead of being the victim of a poorly planned pull, and they might have had to take his petition seriously, but I might want to find a zone instead...because they were worried that the wizard wouldn't slow the mobs down long enough for me too get away.

The other one they never seemed to catch on to, was when everyone but them would leave the zone, except for one shaman, who would buff and sow the mobs (yes, you used to be able to do that, you didn't have to charm them first like you do now).

It's kinda funny now, because almost every wizard I meet these days is polite, and likeable. Once they put the no ksing rule in place the wizard population seemed to change dramatically in temperment...or maybe it's just me.

Now if we could only do something about the drOOds, and dOOds (not to be confused with the actual druids, who are quite nice people, except for the whole vegetarian while sacrificing people inside the stone rings thing. I think they have to do it at least once a month on the new moon to keep the rings working though, at least thats what a few of my druid friends claim, I'm told Gnomes work best.)

I will also take this opportunity to admit to leveling my necro from 22-31 in EK. The only thing anyone was killing though were the druids and treants. No one bothered with anything else. Of course this was way before Solstice robes, and even before Wu's, so silk wasn't exactly a sought after commotiody

[Lothay]

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~Lothay