What feature would you like on EQTC.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Originally posted by Krazick
Ok... gonna post my idea (as you haven't had enough of them already)...

Armor Sets:
- Build a Table with:
Armor Set Name
Item IDs for each component of the set

Generate a List of Armor Sets, that can be drilled into based on the Item IDs...

Potential to identify common components, with different quantities... maybe a complete sell/purchase price of the set to an NPC

Yep, would require manual entry of the sets... but since I do most of that anyway...

(sorry for the stuff here the general public will not understand... but Krazic will )

How about if it was a form *like* the sources form... (will only need one freeform entry field not 3 like sources) This way you could also do "weapon" sets. It would have a "set name" and then a list of items in the set.

Then the issue would be how and when to display it. I think I would want to work on a more dynamic way to create the left hand menu before we did this...

[Ngreth Thergn]

Originally posted by Jarak_akn
I would love to see an export feature.
I quite often want to do some additional manipulation of data in a spreadsheet (like excel) and currently I have to parse the information quite a lot before being able to use it. (I just copy and paste off of the on screen lists)

It would be nice to be able to export even a slightly formated version of the data, e.g. csv or tab deliminated. Ideally from the results of the advanced search discussed above :-)

Cheers,

Jarak

No

Then in 30 seconds Yan-tis, IGE, super-sales... whatever has a copy of our DB to sell to people :/ Not gonna happen... sorry.

Plus, with recipe results... the amount of "columns" returned is dynamic... making a CSV (or tab etc...) not horibly feasable... or with alot of wasted space... the WORST case being the containers which can be small just 1 or 2 (brewing) or huge (tailoring... up to 7 or 8)... with components I can predict that it will be no more than 10 so have 10 columns... not so with the containers.

[Auricula]

The best way I can describe this request, is to give an example.

Let's say I have ton of Vegetables and want to know how best to use them. I search on Vegetables, then click on Find Recipes That Use This Item. The list of recipies that comes up is currently NOT sortable by trivial ... my wish is that it could be sorted.

[Archangel Beth]

Regarding linking to Allakhazam:

Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn
It would be a HUGE MANUAL linking... tons of work. And it would take an agreement. Plus... I don't like the idea curently of having a link that aways points to another site :/

Would it be worth making an agreement to have a search-button linking to allakhazam's Item Lookup search page?

Either in the general sidebar (only one addition to the page?), or as a default field on all items that plugs in the item's name?

Definitely just a suggestion, that.

[SilverfurMangycoat]

Can we click on an option *not* to show the gazillion ways to make Celestial Essence when converting a recipe into a Printable Format Page?

That alone prevents me from printing out 80% of the recipes I'd like to have.

Silverfur Mangycoat
63 DRU of The Nameless
<The Fools Republic>

[Dunthor Warsmith]

Thought: If a search returns exactly one result, automatically load that result's main page.

I'm not sure if this would be considered "better" or "worse" by more people. When I started using Lucy I found it a pain, but I've come to appreciate it as saving me time, clicks, and bandwidth. I keep wishing EQTC's search acted the same way, although since each result has two "main" links (item itself, and recipes that use this item), that could kill the idea right there (which would you automatically load?).

[Ngreth Thergn]

Originally posted by Auricula
The best way I can describe this request, is to give an example.

Let's say I have ton of Vegetables and want to know how best to use them. I search on Vegetables, then click on Find Recipes That Use This Item. The list of recipies that comes up is currently NOT sortable by trivial ... my wish is that it could be sorted.

Well that is posible Will look into it. (trivial sorting is more of a mess than you think... but will still look into it...)

[Ngreth Thergn]

Originally posted by SilverfurMangycoat
Can we click on an option *not* to show the gazillion ways to make Celestial Essence when converting a recipe into a Printable Format Page?

That alone prevents me from printing out 80% of the recipes I'd like to have.

Silverfur Mangycoat
63 DRU of The Nameless
<The Fools Republic>

I thought I already killed that... give me a curent example.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Originally posted by Dunthor Warsmith
Thought: If a search returns exactly one result, automatically load that result's main page.

I'm not sure if this would be considered "better" or "worse" by more people. When I started using Lucy I found it a pain, but I've come to appreciate it as saving me time, clicks, and bandwidth. I keep wishing EQTC's search acted the same way, although since each result has two "main" links (item itself, and recipes that use this item), that could kill the idea right there (which would you automatically load?).

Before I added that link... would have been good, but since people wanted the "what uses this" link more handy... now it would not be a good idea. Thank you for the sugestion though. For now the answer is no from a UI standpoint.

[Sanna]

I know you'll say no to this (partly because it's a flawed idea, and partly because I know you've rejected elements of it before), but I'll say it anyway, because it may cause someone else to think of a better-than-this idea.



Have a subscription service in order to get at pricing data of items. That way, if someone tries to ping-pwn the DB to find exploits, you'll know who it is, b/c they'll be signed in. (And you can swing the ban stick at them : P )

I'd give you RL money to see prices of stuff ^_^.


I know it's a bad idea b/c you/Denmother-sama have said you don't want to have some data available only to those who subscribe (or something close to that). Also, it sounds like a whooole lot of work/code/stuff. But maybe someone can take that and make it better. Or maybe it gets filed in the round cabinet. : P



The 'see what recipes this is used in' link is the best thing since sliced bread, btw.


I kind of want a way to see what data you guys still don't have. What trivials are still unfound, what right click info is still not there, etc.



I had a frightening idea, about a 'submit per recipe/item' thing, rather than a forum to do it.... a user could go to the item's or recipe's page, and submit their update there, directly attached to the item/recipe, then a data entry clerk or someone a la Krazick can go through and see what has had a submission, and then do the update that way. To me, it seems then that posts wouldn't get lost. As far as being practical, that sounds like a nightmare to set up. But that's why you have a big red NO stamp available. ^_^


Again, crazy as heck. But there they are.

-- Sanna

[Krazick]

another reason this is not likely to be implemented... is the fact that the prices of items simply have not been entered for the most part.

Personally I see little value to track prices of items... but that is likely the fact that I am an old jaded monk with 15 K Plat in the bank, and don't care that Recipe X will make me 3 Gold per combine.

What I find of value is to know that I can make Item Y, and sell it to another PC for 10 x the cost... and tracking those prices is not something we will ever likely do.

[Verdandi]

Some sort of automatic price calculator would be invaluable for alchemy, because it is almost entirely vendor based. Maybe even something along the lines of our current (and very outdated) pricing pages, but dymanically generated. Almost all ingredients are bought off vendors, and for most people almost all successes in the skillup process are sold back to vendors. For this reason I was extremely happy when Cubby provided updated vendor pricing for all the herbs. Since then, when I started adding all the non-autolearn recipes to my recipe book in game, I sold one of each potion back to the vendor to get the vendor buy and sell prices. All that's left is the prices on autolearn potions, of which there aren't all that many. So the data is already there, at least, to make such a feature extremely useful to shamans. But then, is that one use enough to make implementing the code worthwhile? That's not my call.

Edit: We don't have much pricing for 5 and 10 dose potions but if I correctly recall the statements made when the charged potions were given prices different from the single doses, they should simply be 5 and 10 times more than the singles, respectively. That being the case, any discepancies should be reported as bugs. Any pricing features we may add shouldn't be made with the charged potions in mind.

[Auricula]

Kind Sir Ngreth, would you be so kind as to take a look at this thread from a while back?

http://mboards.eqtraders.com/upload/...threadid=13513

Thank you

[Ngreth Thergn]

Originally posted by Sanna
I know you'll say no to this (partly because it's a flawed idea, and partly because I know you've rejected elements of it before), but I'll say it anyway, because it may cause someone else to think of a better-than-this idea.



Have a subscription service in order to get at pricing data of items. That way, if someone tries to ping-pwn the DB to find exploits, you'll know who it is, b/c they'll be signed in. (And you can swing the ban stick at them : P )

I'd give you RL money to see prices of stuff ^_^.


I know it's a bad idea b/c you/Denmother-sama have said you don't want to have some data available only to those who subscribe (or something close to that). Also, it sounds like a whooole lot of work/code/stuff. But maybe someone can take that and make it better. Or maybe it gets filed in the round cabinet. : P

the reason we do not have much pricing now is missing data more than a desire to not have it. Pricing data on recipes is already on my list of things to do.

Originally posted by Sanna

I kind of want a way to see what data you guys still don't have. What trivials are still unfound, what right click info is still not there, etc.

my ides for the recipe search MAY include a way to search on unknown trivials. Not sure about doing the right click info, maybe make searching the notes part of advanced search.

Originally posted by Sanna

I had a frightening idea, about a 'submit per recipe/item' thing, rather than a forum to do it.... a user could go to the item's or recipe's page, and submit their update there, directly attached to the item/recipe, then a data entry clerk or someone a la Krazick can go through and see what has had a submission, and then do the update that way. To me, it seems then that posts wouldn't get lost. As far as being practical, that sounds like a nightmare to set up. But that's why you have a big red NO stamp available. ^_^

maybe. It would be a low priority item. One reason for the boards method is posible corroboration or disputing a change from the community that a more "private" method does not allow.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Originally posted by Auricula
Kind Sir Ngreth, would you be so kind as to take a look at this thread from a while back?

http://mboards.eqtraders.com/upload/...threadid=13513

Thank you

Can you rephrase it here. It did not make sense to me... AND I want to keep all of this type of thing in one area so I am not hopping all over the place to find what to do. This MAY also fall under the subset idea Krazic proposed.