On the rarity of Clockwork Gnome Bolts...

[Ngreth Thergn]

Hrm.

I can ask if I can make the bankers no attack...

of course that makes two less mobs you can get parts from... (assuming they even have drops)

SHould I go ahead and see about that?

[Maevenniia]

I don't know if Banker NPCs have drops, I know Merchant NPCs usually don't...

[KyrosKrane]

I'd think that killing the bankers (or merchants, for that matter) would qualify as zone disruption. A long time back, merchants were all made non-aggro (they can't go below dubious, regardless of your actual faction, and I believe (though I haven't tested) that they don't assist other aggro NPC's) and merchant corpses made to insta-vanish specifically to prevent people from killing merchants. Note that the merchants are not immune to attack; there's just no reward for killing them. Given that some bankers are also quest NPC's and if anything, more valuable than merchants, I'm surprised the same coding wasn't applied to bankers.

[Ikken]

Unless you like long runs to Abysmal Sea, I would recommend against killing the good clockworks in Corathus for parts. Once your faction goes to far, the merchants will no longer sell Gnomish Heat Sources to you, leaving you the long trek to Abysmal for them.

I realized this too late after farming the good ones for several weeks - it has taken several months just to get back to dubious, let alone indifferent.

-Ikken

[Wymp]

Would have to say, yes ... make bankers at least no-attack, please. Totally non-agro would be better to make them immune to AE'ers in the vicinity, though.

But, long runs to Abysmal? Heh, it's 2 magus ports away, man. As hard as bolts are to get even slaughtering everything clockwork in the zone, faction is a non-issue unless you're still doing Bellfast's tasks.

[Bobaten]

I'm also a researcher, and while I agree abysmal is close...the only other source for ink and quill components is a vendor in Rellic. Rellic would be an OK spot to make spells though if only there was a bank. BTW heat sources are also sold in EFP arena area if you want another source.

[Ladwenae_AB]

Hrm.

I can ask if I can make the bankers no attack...

of course that makes two less mobs you can get parts from... (assuming they even have drops)

SHould I go ahead and see about that?

The bankers insta poof when killed ( doesnt leave a corpse ) so that would be nice, the only reason they are killed is that they have a rather large agro range so if I wanna avoid them I have to leave like 10 mobs alone, and well I cant do that!

My gnome is good faction in corathus, but they most deffinately dont like my ranger there, which is kinda convinient since its far faster to pull that way. I suggest doing slipgears gem before going that path if you use a DoN vendor charm or just dont have a good LDoN charm aug....

And I never get my Gnomish heat sources in CC, its far faster to use magus and just gate back, and when I do the smithing combines its far easier to just do that in Abysmal as well.

And now we are talking about that, when are you gonna add those to PoK Ngreth, im sure you promised that when we busted our asses of for you in beta!! /grin

[tuis]

Heh, I'm bound right next to the GL magus...only 2 hotkeys and I'm in Abysmal.

Though I kill good clockworks and shrooms, I try to balance it out by keeping the creep reapers dead also. On Zek, if your faction with surrounding NPC's is better than someone who decides to hit you (or has a damage shield), those NPC's will assist you on them. Can get pretty messy

Bankers should be 'no-attack' though, but not merchants...please, its the only way I can get that lazy $&^*&# Nerissa Clothspinner out of the pub before I fall asleep waiting for her. Now that I think of it, it's amusing to see on my rare trips to High Hold...Welcome to my bank! Banker Soandso tries to hit you but misses! Thanks, come again...as she chases me to the zoneline. Yeah, something not right about that.

[Winenose]

Please tell me how you get good drop rate on pelts. I'm 0 out of 60 shadowmanes in Stoneroot so far. 20 of them lower levels, 40 of the 'elder' shadowmanes. That's just depressing.. it's not hard to kill them, but there's not one piece of flat ground around the elders... is there a difference in drop rate between them?

[Ilona]

Bankers should be 'no-attack' though, but not merchants...please, its the only way I can get that lazy $&^*&# Nerissa Clothspinner out of the pub before I fall asleep waiting for her.

I have taken to buying my high quality threads in Halas. Granted, they (and the half elf versions) are also available in Freeport, but I still can't find my way around the new Freeport, so avoid it as much as possible. Qeynos and Halas are much easier (and have less stupid walls to navigate!). The half-elf version of the threads are available in Kelethin too, just at the top of the newbie lift, so no reason to use Nerissa Clothspinner or Freeport at all unless you want to!

[Aarial]

Put Nomish Heal Sources in POK For the love of god =p

[tuis]

Halas still bears a grudge against me for leveling off their guards.

So does Freeport.

Hrm, and Kelethin hates me because we still get faction hits for killing any race within their home city/zone. Not to mention the elf merchant at Butcher docks killed me a few times way back in those days when merchants did attack...and I repaid the debt with much interest.

My factions are fluxxored all over the world. Erudin...bzzt. High Pass...guards like me but that's it. Rivervale...bzzt. Neriak, Grobb, Ogguk...bzztbzztbzzt. Freeport...omg bzzt. Felwithe, Kelethin...BZZT. Oh wait...I think I can enter Ak'Anon still. Kaladim I can enter but I can't buy/sell.

[Oriaas]

Keep gnomish heat sources where they are...just make then stackable to 100.

As for pelts, drop rate its pretty low anywhere outside of DSK...same goes for just about any tradeskill item that can drop in DoD and in DSK. Most of it drops in non KoS areas though so its tricky.

Its fairly easy (and much more efficient) to kill more than just one type of mob in CC. I don't farm it that often but when I do, I do it hardcore. Main thing is to have control of the reaper camp (mainly for faction balance). Once you get it broken and know the order its nearly impossible for someone to come in and "claim" one was just sitting there. Move from spawn to spawn and kill all 11 at once. Clear the slugs for the 11th. Pop shrooms for skins. Pop squids for bones. Tag the 4 or 5 nameds spots for an extra 15-20K per farm. Etc etc.

Its all approx 20 minute spawns so you just have to know what you can handle. I have killed for stacks and stacks of everything that drops in CC and I am still warmly or higher to everything that matters. Lots of times lower level people will complain that I kill so much so I just invite 5 of em to group and let em sit there and sponge up xp...keeps em from getting in the way too.

Biggest pita for me is the little things from other zones likes springs, gears, BDs etc. None of the CC stuff is all that rare though unless you just kill for 1 single item. I have no problem paying 5K a bolt when I know I am getting that much (and often more) in sellables from basicly killing anything that moves.

Except that stinkin Treddlehoop...he irks me when he tags along on my Earthshaker pulls. Have to kill near a zone then pop out and back in to loot stuff...I am gonna kill him for the heck of it one time...and prolly get petitioned for screwing up peoples quests ehe.

[tuis]

Yah, I picked up 4 pelts in a relatively short time (2/2 on one pull) but overall they were the only four I've seen in 2 days of boxing/soloing Stoneroot. BTW, the monk can handle them solo, but costing me potions and pumice =p

[Grizabelle]

Man, nps farming pelts in DS but bolts... omg. I just killed reapers in CC for 3 hours, no bolts OR screws to be found. /sigh.