LoY Cultural Robes - how much do the ingredients cost?

[Hzark]

How much do the merchants charge for the necessary vendor purchased ingredients?

e.g. Silver, gold and platinum ribbons. Patterns. etc.

I know I could just go and look, but I am at work atm and want to know whether it is worth even bothering to look.

I would be interested in making the robes for skill ups, and also possibly to sell if there was a market.

The top iksar robe has extended affliction III, making it a very nice necromancer robe.

My current skill is 185 without Geerlok.

[accretion]

Ribbon Costs

Silver -- 15pp (I think)
Gold -- 31pp
Platinum -- 105pp

I basically decided that it was too expensive to skill up on anything past the Gold threads. The vendor buyback for the Platinum combines is only 23pp so it's effectively 82pp + dye costs per combine, which is pretty steep for 167-188 IMO.


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[Taushar]

Re: Ribbon Costs

I basically decided that it was too expensive to skill up on anything past the Gold threads

I agree that it is an expensive way to skill up. However, I have done the ribbons route from 167 to 185 so far and noitced one thing. Previously I have been using studded acylia armors to skill up. From about 155 to 167, I was lucky to skill up about 1 per a stack of combines. Mind you these trivials at 188. When I was using platinum ribbons to skill, I was averaging about 3-4 skills per stack of combine. Similar trivial at 187. I went from 167 to 185 in about 4 stacks of combines. I haven't done the cost analysis but I would think the faster skill up would mean competitive cost/skill up to other methods. FYI my Wisdom was about 285 to 295 range while skilling from 155 to 185. Just a thought.

Taushar

[atonic]

skill-up costs: platinum ribbon vs. acrylia studded

I guess I am confused.

Platinum ribbon costs about 105pp? and takes a foraged/brewed item to combine?

Acrylia studded takes a superb(or is it flawless?) rockhopper hide and acrylia studs. Wouldn't those cost significantly more than 105pp? If you choose to farm the parts for the acrylia studded, couldn't you sell them for considerably more than 105pp?

If I have gotten something out of whack here, please let me know before I send my wife heading down the wrong path to advance her tailoring.

[EnragedFilia]

yeah those numbers are right, its all a matter of how fast you can farm plat vs. how fast you can farm acrylia/hopperhide, not to mention how fast you can farm and/or forage dye component.
also, if you actually are or know someone that can make the robes, you could just save the stack of ribbons or 3 that you end up with and use them up as you get the research piece.

[Idana Phoenixfyre]

As far as I can tell though, the most expensive part of making the robes is going to be getting the research items for the better robes. I expect to lose money on Velious/Luclin tailoring unless I farm the items but paying 2.5kpp PER RUNE/WORD/PAGE?! OMG, I wanted /bonk someone. I'd farm the items myself but you know how hard it is to get just the research item you want, and now with the new combines forget buying them in the bazaar. The robes are great, but I can't ever imagine getting folks to buy them at a cost that makes up for my failures. Oops, I guess this is more of a primal scream, but it does sort of fit with the cost of using the robes to skill up too. ops: I'm all for rampant capitalism, but... I'm hoping the market won't bear this lol.

[Grozza]

Robes

Well, the last two robes may be expensive, but the first two certainly are not. They take a fairly common research component that can be bought from merchants for usually under 2pp or in the bazar for 2-10pp, and a silver ribbon for 15pp. That's pretty cheap for something that trivials at 210+.

I think people will be making the last two robes more to sell than to skill up on. I look at these robes as a nice alternate path to the low 200s, and then I will probably change over to Solstice robes.

[Tinile]

I had 31 combines on the ribbons to skill up on (platinum ribbons) and i got 5 skill ups. tried selling ribbons in bazaar so far with no luck.

[accretion]

Re: skill-up costs: platinum ribbon vs. acrylia studded

Acrylia studded takes a superb(or is it flawless?) rockhopper hide and acrylia studs. Wouldn't those cost significantly more than 105pp? If you choose to farm the parts for the acrylia studded, couldn't you sell them for considerably more than 105pp?

If I have gotten something out of whack here, please let me know before I send my wife heading down the wrong path to advance her tailoring.

Heh, never a good thing to send one's wife down the wrong path

I was operating under a couple assumptions that I didn't articulate:
1) Ribbons would not be re-sold (due to glut, lack of demand, etc. I'd just sell back to vendor for -80pp loss)

2) Solstice Robes are cheaper (~60pp per combine) and could recoup more cash

The wild card here is the anecdotal evidence that a couple folks have posted that skillups are somehow "better" with the ribbons. I have to admit, I skilled up from 158-167 in roughly 50 combines doing the Gold Ribbons and was amazed. So in short, I'm re-thinking my position :P

I'll probably do another 50-60 combines tonight and see how it goes. That way I can also save my Wyvern and Drake hides for 188+.

[Taraddar]

I wish I had tracked things exactly but I didn't.
Personally tho I went from 161 tayloring to 187 tayloring on nothing but ribbons. For those 26 points it should have been between 150-175 combines with a total cost of 4-5k. That works out to a 1 in 6 combine skill up rate and about 3 per stack.

Personally I went with this method because it fit my situation. I'm a high level player in a top end guild and so my time is usually ocuppied raiding in the elemental planes right now. Which pretty much meant farming acrylia and rockhoppers wasn't going to happen. The cost of buying supplies in the bazaar for acrylia put the cost per combine pretty simular to the cost of plat ribbons and even then I had to find the stuff for sale in the bazaar.

For the plat ribbons on the other hand everything was vendor bought except the foraged component for the dye. Since i had a lvl 53 druid on a second account it wasn't hard to sit in lavastorm foraging on my second computer while I raided.

[Flintforge]

Ribbons for skill

Can these ribbons be combined by non INT classes? I am a pally with not so high WIS and rockhoppers are getting really old and I only have about 80 superb hides still.

thanks

[Lilosh]

THe Ribbons can be combined by anyone.
The robes were given only to the INT caster races.



-Lilosh

[Yalum]

The robes themselves aren't that great a skillup vector anyway, the research components are just too hard to get in quantity.

Ribbons are fantastic though.

[MasterKrym]

Retarded robes

The ribbons are merely the game designers way of ensuring those uber guilded players can buy there way to higher level tailoring. I would happily have taken an 80pp loss per combine to skill up in those ranges compared with the months it took me to do without shop bought items.

And to give some races the ability to make highly sort after robes is even more annoying considering that as a wood elf druid I can now make nothing that is worth anything to anybody. Mmmm maybe I should head over to the rants...

[Zebroxks]

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