Increase in ornate drops and its effect on smithing prices

[Dakonnen]

I currently stock all types of Heraldic on my trader on Innoruuk and have as yet no trouble selling for between 5 K for a bracer and 15 K for a Breastplate. The only Heraldic I sel lower is the Fierce because that is what all the cultural smiths on my server make and try and sell so that market is pretty much gone. All other types I sell still at a rate of 8 or more pieces per week. Granted that is lower than a month ago but still enough to make me some cash.
I will stop making the stuff eventually just because I am at 250 skill now and want to concentrate on obtaining the planar armor components and outfit my guild members that have not yet reached the level or do not have the money for the Ornate molds. I have managed to hit all the smithing markets at the right time on my server from Acrylia Plate through Tae Ew, Heraldic and Planar and have made enough money where I am comfortable and just do the smithing and selling as something to do when bored or not in the mood for a raid.
I wear armor I have made mostly and will eventually get the ornate through drops. As happens with all trade items eventually the market for an item goes away or demand decreases and you just have to wait for the next level items to come out. When the new expansion hits in September there will be another new market to work. I will just wait and see.

[mulleteer]

Litlle update.

I have had a dark prince bracer and greaves (my old best sellers) for 3k on bracer and 6k on greaves for 1 week on 24h/7 with no bites.

Meanwhile the ornate bracers have dropped under 30k and which give ft to clerics my best customers.

Mulleteer Combover

[Celdil]

The cost for any individual Heraldic piece is going to vary depending on the success rate, and how you get your supplies.

For your Fine BP, assuming you buy everything in the bazaar, and you attempt to shop well, and assuming that you have sources to complete the subcombines in pottery, brewing and tailoring with a minimum of loss (I'll add 5% to the end figure to cover average losses) you'll need: (these numbers are Tarew Marr Bazaar averages, and from my memory! ymmv)

Infused High Quality Ring x 3 (405p per ring)
Enchanted Chain Jointing (53p)
Royal Temper (830p)
Leather Padding (25p)
Mold (25p)

Totalling 2148P plus 5% loss = 2255p per attempt.

If you need to hire the services of someone to do some of the subcombines for you, the cost can be considerably higher.

Now add in the fact that heraldic armor combines fail 60% of the time at highest skill. And since that is the average for all heraldic pieces, BP's will probably fail more than that since the trivials for all other armor items we do know go from low to high, with the BP always having the highest trivial. So perhaps you can expect to make one in three breastplates. That brings the expected cost per breastplate, over a long run of them to about 6765p.

but those are long run numbers. Thousands or tens of thousands of attempts. On any one attempt, I have had runs where I've made it on the first combine, and I've had runs where I've toasted six attempts and didn't have enough components left to try again. (three rings a combine eats em up fast!)

[Axterix EnObelix]

It's been interesting to see the effect of ornate on prices. It's not just smithing stuff. It's everything that sells for a few k+. Because people are saving up to buy Ornate, it's left a lack of plat to be spent on other items while people are at the same time more motivated to sell. Seen many an item like CoFs lose about 1/3rd of their value.

In the long term, I expect non visible slot type items to bounce back, but the availability of the visible armor pieces in ornate will keep the prices for those slots low.

[Aethn]

Originally posted by Braeorn
First, if molds only drop in tier 3, why would a lvl 55 be able to use them? Thats plain stupid...tier 3 requires 62 for the 'free ride'...

Incorrect... Molds also have a rare chance to drop off Tier 2 bosses.

[Bonesmasher]

Quick price list for Nameless,


I play a caster, so i know the silk market best, but here's prices as in bazzar right now, as of this moment...

(Here's the variables I've seen as a caster. BTW silk turbans are so low because they suck really, really hard.)

Silk turban - 5000 - 11000
Silk Boots - 9000 - 22000
Silk gloves - 11000 - 22000
Silk pants - 35 - 50 K
Silk sleeves - 20 - 30 K
Silk Robe - 50 K
Silk Bracer , 20 -50 K, wide, wide margin there, been seeing 'em more and more for 40 -50 tho...


Leather helm - 9500
Leather boot -18000
Leather glove - 18000
Leather wristband - 49000

Chain Coif - 20 K
Chain glove - 25 K
Chain sleeve 35 K - 38 K
Chain boot - 50 K

Ornate guantlet - 30 K
Ornate bracer - 30 K - 40 K
Ornate vambrace - 35 K
Ornate boot 40k - 43 K
Ornate breastplate 99K - 125 K

This is just a snapshot, some of these might be high or low or I dunno, but it's what's in bazaar - right- now.