Loam Drop Rates

[Kaerdon]

Yes, that's something I wonder about...Ngreth hinted that the drop rate in the appropriate zone will be 20 times the drop rate in other zones...but I dont think anyone witnessed something as good as that anywhere...not even in Crystallos. What is the appropriate zone then ? ...is it even in SoF ? ...is it somewhere else ?

Kaerdon Winterblaze
Officer of Union of Power
Quellious Server

[Gloire]

Thalassius has a great drop rate for ore got at less 5 Tantalum Ore in a 2 hours run, i wasn't paying attention at all to the loam tho, but it shouldn't be as bad as Forteress Mechanotus.

[Havensdance]

There is a better then even chance Crystallos isn't correctly set. The quest items from there aren't being accepted from the quest givers. There's a lot of iffy things in meldrath's as well. My experience there could simply be a case of getting there before it is ready.

[Leana]

Fortress Mechanotus is **NOT** the target zone for those drops. And because of it, it will be rare. on the table you were pulling from it has a 2.22 % chance to get a drop at all and THEN a 2% chance to be porus loam, 2% chance to be the 80 marrow and 4% chance to be the 80 spinnerette, This is BEFORE the changes I made (since we are speaking of the past)

Ngreth,

Can you explain why spinnerets would be double the drop rate of marrow and porous loam? I understand why silk would be doubled, since twice the amount of silk is required to make a combine as any other base material, but only one spinneret is required in any combine.

Thanks,
Leana

[Ngreth Thergn]

Ngreth,

Can you explain why spinnerets would be double the drop rate of marrow and porous loam? I understand why silk would be doubled, since twice the amount of silk is required to make a combine as any other base material, but only one spinneret is required in any combine.

Thanks,
Leana

because of a mistake in my original logic

It has been fixed in the new tables (which still need a patch)

[KyrosKrane]

From what I can tell, the intended farm spots for the Elegant/Sublime finishing drops (loam, marrow, fluid) is the Tier 3 and 4 zones in SoF. It has a small chance to drop in Tier 1 and 2 SoF zones, and an even smaller chance to drop off any level 77+ critter, but the chances are insanely low outside SoF.

I'll see if I can get the full list of zones by tier in SoF. I know it's been posted a few times already.

[Ngreth Thergn]

T3 zones are...

Gyrospirez (no apropriate mobs though... so skip it)
SHIP Workshop
Steam Factory
Meldrath's Mantion (keyed)

T4 is ONLY

Crystalos (keyed)

With this basic knowledge... I may go in and add steamworks to the "humanoid" table to give more chances for drops (and makes it include gyrospire zeka)

[KyrosKrane]

Well, there we go. Thank you.

[Ratblaster]

T3 zones are...
Gyrospirez (no apropriate mobs though... so skip it)
SHIP Workshop
Steam Factory
Meldrath's Mantion (keyed)

Spent a few hours in Steam Factory to get enough foundry workers to finish Sublime pattern task a couple days ago. During that time we had 2 exquisite spinneret fluids drop, but no porous loam dropped.

Porous Loam is by far the rarest of the drops for the new elegant armor & sublime augs...with sellers raising price up to 200k-300k for each porous loam in bazaar. I've only been able to make 6 Elegant chain/plate BPs (plus a few of the other armor slots) since SoF release due to difficulty in obtaining the porous loam at reasonable price, so it will help if/when drop rates go up.

[Dutchy]

I'd suggest trying Thallasius missions as well for Porous Loam. They're by no means common drops (we cleared the entire instance about 15 times) but here's what I found so far:

8 Porous Loam
9 Tantalum Ore
1 Exquisite Marrow
2 Exquisite Animal Pelt
0 Exquisite Spinneret Fluid
5 Exquisite Silk

It's a too small sample to draw any real conclusions... but it appears loam is the most common drop of the 3 there.
I'm starting to get an overdose of these missions (again) though hehe, most cons went lightblue at lvl 79+, but my usual group has 5 plate/chain classes and 1 leather class so we'll keep doing them untill we find a better zone.

On Drinal the buyers are currently offering 150K+ per loam, and I have yet to actually see one for sale in the bazaar. Tantalum ore has been for sale, currently at 40Kish each and slowly coming down. Silk & Leather components are a LOT cheaper: 1-2K per silk, 10K per pelt, and I've seen a couple of marrows/fluids up for 80-120K.

[Wyvernwill]

There are a lot... and I mean a LOT of golems in Thallasius missions, which is why loam is disproportionate. Considering that golems drop only plate/chain and no silk/leather, that's the discrepancy.

[Dutchy]

*nod* that's why I hunt there =)
Also a lot of human type models though (mephits and kedge mobs). I've been getting lots and lots of superb/flawless pelts, silks, fluids and marrows as well. I think I just had some bad luck on the exquisite marrows & fluids drops.

[Amparo]

T3 zones are...

Gyrospirez (no apropriate mobs though... so skip it)
SHIP Workshop
Steam Factory
Meldrath's Mantion (keyed)

T4 is ONLY

Crystalos (keyed)

With this basic knowledge... I may go in and add steamworks to the "humanoid" table to give more chances for drops (and makes it include gyrospire zeka)

A Porous Loam just dropped from a steamwork trooper (humanoid) in Gyrospire Beza. November/28/07.

[silent_hand]

Ok as it stands loams seem to be by far the rarest of the 3 types of drops. Now think about how many classes need loams, compared to spinners/marrow.

Loam = Clr/Bard/War/Pal/Sk + Ranger/Sham/rog/Berz = 9

Marrow = Bst/Monk/Druid = 3

Spinner = Ench/Mage/Wiz/Necro = 4


So Loams are needed OVER twice as much as the other items.. This doesnt take into account there are far more plate classes (cle/war/pal/sk) then others on most servers.

These drop rates really need to be balanced against the # of classes taht need them. Having the Cloth/Leather stuff so common compared to the plate/chain makes cloth/leather armor about 5x cheaper then plate/chain, and this isnt correct IMO.

Don't forget the marrow and fluid are also used for augs as well as armor, so I am sure it changes your numbers, as in we all need augs?

[Unapuma]

There are more GM smith than GM tailor so some loam are getting used up for symbols.