Sickles and skill ups

[Karim]

Sickles are breaking my bank account.

Level 70 with 450 str, all my stats are maxed cept charisma.

I am averaging 30-40 combines to get a skill up.

Range just bad or should I not be buffing with champion etc before doing combines?

Smithing level 3 and Salvage level 3 too.

-Karim
269 smithing and dreading more subcombines.

[Lokase]

The closer you get to the triv the better it will get.

I did Shadowscream to 267 then went full bore on MTCS.

Here are my MTCS skill up stats:

- WIS was at 335 for all combines
- I did a total of 26 Stack try to skill from 267-300
- I spent approximatley 160k pp for the run

I had 7, 10 slot bags for my runs. This gave me the ability to do 19 sickle combines at a time. I dumped my sickles to a mule on another account.

During one of my 19 combine tries I got 4 upticks - this was from 271-275. I am hard pressed to recall another high trade where I got 4 upticks in one stack try... lucky I guess.

So, keep plugging away Karim, the closer you get to 335 the easier it gets.

Just making sure.... you ARE using a GEERLOCK, yes?? If you don't have a geerlok, shame on you!, that would expalin your slow progression.

Cheers,


Plainswalker of the 70th Season
Quiet and stealthy, Lokase slips into the forest to resume the hunt.

[Aavar]

an ogre friend of mine had 1 skill up every 10 to 12 tries until he got to about 280ish skill.

str of 245.
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[Zacatac]

I am averaging 30-40 combines to get a skill up.

Sounds like you are a bit low, but probably see a few more as you get higher. I didn't keep track, buy so far I'd say 1 in 20-25 is normal. Every so often I get lucky and get a couple skill-ups per 20, but I've also gone 40+ without a skillup. In fact my last run was 60 combines, with 1 skill up.

I am 380 INT, level 70.

Also, I don't think mastery or salvage AA's have any effect on skill up rates.

[Karim]

415 wis
450 str
Trophy

Down over 100K, but not going to do any shadow scream, have more pp then patience.

-Karim

[Blayze Meduenin]

neither mastery or salvage have any direct effect on skillup rates but both have an indirect effect.

salavage has a very minor effect, it may salaveg over a run enough for an extra combine or 2 (for a lil more skill up chance)

mastery halfs fail rate (at mastery 3) so more success, skill up rate is higher on a success than a fail, course after a certain point even without mastery youll be on minimum fail rate so no hope after that point

[Luvimt]

My skill up rate definately improved as i got closer to and above the trivial, from 250-270 ave combines/skill up were about 23, 250-285 ave about 25 and 250-300 averaged at 20.12. So those last 15 points were a synch compared to the rest.
I had 4 runs of over 60 combines for a skill up but had a fair few lucky streaks - 3 or 4 skill ups per stack.
Smithing can be very depressing at times, but keep at it, from whats been posted here, the ave skill up varies between about 19-25. With your strength, you should be at the lower end.
Sickles will hurt your bank account, at approx 7k/stack (no imbue-er, so i bought blessed dust/imbued emeralds and factoring in the failures on hilts, pommels and blades) a skillup/stack will cost 350k.

[Boleslav]

Actually, I bet your skillup rate stopped entirely when you reached the trivial.

Boleslav

[Zacatac]

I finished off my night with 3 skillups in a set of 20, then my last skill up 14 combines into the next set of 20. No more sickles for me! /cheer

[Luvimt]

Nope Boleslav, trivial cannot be reached naturally (they triv at 335), so i still gained skill-ups with my gloves on at 335-345 mod'd skill.

[Qtpie]

Sounds like me...

STR 455, WIS 470 (gotta love tribute)

Averaging 31.5 combines per skill up, on MCS.

/cry

[Rwauld]

Call me stubborn

I've been going the human cultural route [old style]. Did you know that Fierce Heraldic Boots tribute for 9.4k ? Takes a little longer to get materials then the sickle (mostly because of essence of sunlight) But most everything else is fairly readily available. I also trade away finished products to guildies for raw materials. Up to 261 skill now, and plugging away- ever so slowly . Averaging about 1 skill up every 20 attempts (vs 335 trivial).

[wayshaper]

my overall avg was 36 combines per skill point from 250-300 , had some long runs of zero skill up, then several runs were got 3-5 skillups in 30 combines

i would take a mule and have enough stuff to do 100 sickle combines, and did runs of 100 / night for several nights, turned the sickles in to guild tribute after i maxed out my tribute