Skillup rates intollerably slow

[Cenelinya]

I have used 13 stacks of LDoN tempers starting at skill 190, and have only skilled up to 193. Is this normal for such a large number of attempts.? That averages out to about 90 combines per skillup.

My int is 286, and I am using a geerlok hammer. Could it be int is not used in the calculation of skillups for smithing? Jewelry always averaged about 30 tries a skillup for me, which I maxed with 220 int, and this is 3 times worse at a lower skill and much higher int.

I am an enchanter so my str is almost nothing.

[Zopharr]

Sounds like bad luck. Nasty streaks (aka "hell levels") are not unusual - when I was smithing (before the rates were increased), I had a streak of about 270 combines with no skill-up, and several more of over 100.

Others have reported hell levels of over 300 combines for a skill-up and one poor sob had a hell level over 1k combines. So I would think this is just par for the course.

Push on - eventually this too will pass.

[waldora]

Max stats

Remember, before POP the max stat was 255, so your 220/255 was very nice 86 % of maximum int. With POP, the max stat is now 355. So your 286/355 has dropped to 80 %. If your stat was maxxed out (at 355) skill ups would come at the fastest rate possible (leaving room for the RNG to be flakey)

[Kaysha Soulsinger]

First, skill up rate differs from tradeskill to tradeskill. One craft is easier to skill up than another, so comparing two is like comparing apples to oranges. Sure, they're both fruit and round, but that's about it .

Second, it's either STR, WIS or INT which is considered for smithing, whichever of these 3 is higher.

Third, there's a well-known hell-area from skill 180-ish to 210-ish, where you need a lot more attempts per skill up than before. Originally, the curve increased even steeper towards 250, but they quickly flattened it out which results in the skillups past 210 coming faster, usually, then in the 180-210 range.

And last, the RNG can be a real pain. I've been stuck at 223 for ages, did several hundred (I didn't count them, but I think I was close to 500) non-trivial combines before I finally got a skill up. Then last weekend, I gained 5 skill ups from just 38 combines /boggle.

[Iannyen]

/shrug

270 int

You have gotten better at Blacksmithing! (205)
You have gotten better at Blacksmithing! (206)
You have gotten better at Blacksmithing! (207)

Back to back....

[Balkin]

I went 327 combines to get from 201 to 202.

Welcome to hell levels, and a little bad luck as well.

Keep at it!

[Aethn]

/shrug

270 int

You have gotten better at Blacksmithing! (205)
You have gotten better at Blacksmithing! (206)
You have gotten better at Blacksmithing! (207)

Back to back...

I tell you what, getting 3 skillups at 200+ in a row is just about the rarest possible event ... ever. If I had to bet on it, I would put money on the odds of a airplane falling to the ground and the parts from the wreckage spontaneously assembling a Ice Cream Truck upon contact before I would bet on that string of skillups.

Its nice to see you got that, but for the thousands of other smiths slugging through 250 combines and no skillups, please dont brag, its not nice.

[Iannyen]

I was pretty freaked out too.
Have a screenshot.... just need to get it hosted now.

And I've found that the road from 210 to 230 is about the longest, hardest part.

[Malodium]

Your average skill up rate from 188 to 250 will be around 20-25 combines per skill up.

I never hit any massive blocks like you have, but in the end, even taking into account your problem here, you will average 20-25 combines per skill up.
SO in the end, you will have combined as many times as most everyone else.
Its frustrating, but in the end its all the same.

[Nimphe Wildwood]

Originally posted by Balkin
I went 327 combines to get from 201 to 202.

327? Ack!

~~~

RNG was on my side:

200 to 201 - 16
202 - 8
203 - 2
204 - 11
205 - 11
206 - 3
207 - 17
208 - 4
209 - 24
210 - 8
...all on LDoN Tempers. I <3 LDoN!

[Chenier]

Re: Max stats

Originally posted by waldora
Remember, before POP the max stat was 255, so your 220/255 was very nice 86 % of maximum int. With POP, the max stat is now 355. So your 286/355 has dropped to 80 %. If your stat was maxxed out (at 355) skill ups would come at the fastest rate possible (leaving room for the RNG to be flakey)

Can this ever been confirmed that >250 str/wis/int actually improves the skill rate?

[Cenelinya]

Thanks

Thanks for the comments. I wouldn't mind 90 attempts per skillup if it wasnt so difficult to obtain the materials for the LDoN tempers or the shadow scream stuff. Some jokers are attepting to sell gargoyle granite for 500 pp each and it seems the others are going for around 150pp.

My only goal is to make tae ew chain and hurricane or nightmare plate armor, which is probably obsolete now with the latest expanion anyway. Just something to be said about making it yourself.

[Shere Khaan]

I had a fantastic run on LDoN tempers as well.

199 --> 212 in 136 combines total.

My shocker period in smithing was actually at 186-188. Took me about 70-80 fine steel combines to get each point. And it was the BP's so had to make hundreds and hundreds of folded sheets.

Shere Khaan

[Lixivia]

200-204 were hell levels for me (i started at 194 but it was an average skill up rate of 1 per 20 combines), but after 204 i got to 212 in about 80 combines.

[Morgrist]

190+ the skillup rate falls off considerably.

You don't want to know how many combines I've gone through for 189-197 at this point. Neither did I,which is why I didn't log em. :P

I'm running at max STR (pre-planar) with a Geerlock as well. Thankfully, I'm getting enough increases not to tear my hair out at the roots, but it -is- slower than fine plate was.

On the other hand,I'm 1/1 on my new Tae Ew shield,so that's all good. :P