LDoN Skillups 186-212

[Sond Planeshifter]

Just wanted to say I was extremely successful skilling up from 186 to 212 in Smithing using LDoN tempers. Had enough for about 300 combines from doing missions and a few bought in bazzar.

Made a ton of folded sheets and started combining. Before I was even out of tempers all LDoN items were trivial and I am now on my way to 220 and finishing my last requirement for the Signet of the Arcane.

Took all of 4 hours to do 186-212 besides the week of doing missions in LDoN after raids to collect temper items.

[Newmoon]

Out of curiousity, what was your str/wis/int skilling stat?

[Nimphe Wildwood]

Let me get this straight, you had 300 or so Tempers? And if that is correct, I say....Mommy!

[Sond Planeshifter]

My INT is 355 (PoTime Geared Wiz with 420aa) and I have done 100 successful missions since LDoN came out, in those I gathered about 200 temper items and I bought another 100 in bazzar, I dont remember exact numbers but it wasn't that bad at all, and Im sure it was a hell of a lot easier then Shadowscream which I did afterwards to get my skill to 220.

48 tailoring skillups and Signet of the Arcane will be mine, already done with first three parts, just need 11 pottery skillups and the 48 tailoring ones, making Opal Encrusted Stiens as I type this.

[Kati Wizard]

<---noob

What are the recipees for ldon smithing to 220 pls?

[Nimphe Wildwood]

What are the recipees for ldon smithing to 220 pls?

Actually, LDoN only goes up to 212, but here is a link...

LDoN Smithing

[Kati Wizard]

Thanks, I guess Ldon gives me insentive to start trade skilling again, SS was just sooooo boring.

[KletianTellah]

Druid friend got me 8 goblin bones (plus 2 that dropped; made 9 bone temper) in two adventures to Ruj Hills, so 200 temper for 100 adventures is actually low with a forager (/boggle at how easy 188-212 will be now)

[Calabar]

Not to burst anyone’s bubble, but depending on your bank account the LDoN skill path can be a bit cost prohibitive. I realize smithing isn’t the cheapest trade skill, but with shadowscream someone with limited financial resources can progress quite nicely with a lot of time spent farming. I’ve only tried a few combines with the new tempers, but I found that the bracers cost me just over 20pp per combine if I’m successful and just over 50pp per combine if the combine fails. At those prices I can only afford to do a few at a time. Which, considering how few temper components I’ve managed to loot from adventures, works out well enough.

[Kieroth_whiteleaf]

In my (limited) experience with LDoN, I've noticed that I can get a reasonable (3-5) tempers per run through, plus a little vendor mining on top of it.

I usually bring in close to 100pp per run.

Doing this a few times in a row gives me enough temper and plat base to craft a couple items, sell the result, craft a couple more, sell the result, etc until I'm out of either plat or temper. Then do a few more LDoN runs.

Although MUCH more expensive than the shadowscream route, I was never lucky with drops - at least with LDoN there's only 1 drop requirement per armor piece rather than several. Plus there's the added benefit of XP and plat (not great plat, but MUCH better than shadowscream).

This is imho how all the tradeskill stuff should work - you get some xp while hunting rather than the endless farming of greens. A level 20 can do it about as well as a level 50, but a level 50 still gets some benefit out of it.

Finally something that works.

[KletianTellah]

Not to burst anyone’s bubble, but depending on your bank account the LDoN skill path can be a bit cost prohibitive. I realize smithing isn’t the cheapest trade skill, but with shadowscream someone with limited financial resources can progress quite nicely with a lot of time spent farming. I’ve only tried a few combines with the new tempers, but I found that the bracers cost me just over 20pp per combine if I’m successful and just over 50pp per combine if the combine fails. At those prices I can only afford to do a few at a time. Which, considering how few temper components I’ve managed to loot from adventures, works out well enough.

It's not really that bad, when you consider a few things:
1. The armor sells a lot better than shadowscream (which means they're not that costly in the end)
2. At the rate I can get temper (with a druid) I can afford to split it (use half the temper for combines, sell the other half like some do with leather padding)
3. If your farming the temper yourself, LDoN yields a fair bit of plat for the difficulty. (In this respect it works like ornate chain or fine plate; the price is vastly reduced or in this case compansated for if you're willing to farm)
4. I will always get xp farming temper items. (Not to mention AA's, augments, misc drops to sell/twink)

[Morgrist]

The beauty of LDoN skillups is simple.

Unless you're buying the temper drops,you're in a dungeon getting the exp,cash loots,and drops to go with it...which allows you to pay the costs of making it. Resale is sane as well.

In other words,it's not breaking the flow of the game to farm greenies for components or having to buy immensely expensive parts from someone else.

And the armor does fill in a good gap- it's effective, the stats are reasonable,and the gear can be self-upgraded.

Win-win for players and Sony there.

[Stugein]

The only gripe I have with the LDoN temper components would be the rarity of the dropped forms. With the exception of Goblin Bones from the Ruj camp and Ice Lichen from the floes in Miragul's, I have yet to see a temper ingredient drop from any of the camps. Even in Ruj or Mir's, the drops aren't anything to be happy about considering the limited number of spawns per instanced dungeon and the less-than-common drop rate. Being a non-forager it takes me the course of many many adventures to even gather one stack's worth of temper drops.

Maybe I'm killing the wrong mobs or going on the wrong adventures, but it seems to me that unless you are willing to pay the silly bazaar prices non-foragers can't use LDoN as an efficient skillup path due to the difficulty in acquiring the drops.

[Kieroth_whiteleaf]

I've found that if you ask at the beginning of an adventure, the foragers will usually give you any temper components they forage as long as you specifically identify them (aka, save me gargoyle granite please). Since only one drops in any given area, you can ask for the specific one you need without writing out a huge list and sounding greedy. MOST of the time the foragers I've grouped with have just given it to me, sometimes I've offered to buy them for 5pp or so each (more than vendor rate from what I've heard, and saves time of bazaar). Occasionally they want to keep half, and I've had ONE who was a smith himself so wasn't willing to give any up.

If you're polite, say that you're a smith specifically and tell them EXACTLY what you need and they're usually willing to accomodate. I think a pretty big part of it is saying that you're a smith - that way at least they know that you're not going to dump it on a bazaar mule and take advantage of their kindness, you're actually going to *USE* the stuff.

SFG

[Lottie]

If you can forage, or have friends/guildies who can then LDON armor can't be beaten for skill-ups. Even without forageing I found 1 adventure from EC = 20 goblin bones.

I've gone from 188-112 tonight with these, I had an amazing skill-up rate. I got 3 skill ups in 3 combines 202-204, and used not even half of the tempers I had made up (355 int). People are selling the bits for tempers at around 100-200pp in the bazaar here, but thanks to friends and vendor mineing I didn't have to buy any.

Now I have to do the sucky farming bit I was dreading for the past 3 months :P