Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The Future of Research

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • The Future of Research

    Ngreth has announced that around the time that the SoF expansion presents (in November 2007) the many forms of research will be consolidated into one method, the newest one sometimes called Systemic Research. This is a method in which any caster class can research for not only their own class by all other classes including other caster classes.

    With old methods research of some spells was limited to creation by the class for which the spell was intended. Therefore, in my collection of alts, I have trained both my Necromancer and my Enchanter to some proficiency in Research. This training becomes expensive.

    So, with eye to the future, I am wondering, for the sake of research alone and not to tallying a number of trophies for them, whether only one of these alts needs continued training.

  • #2
    Unless you want to continue researching on both of them for the joy of it, you will opnly need one to actually persue it to get your spells for both classes.

    Comment


    • #3
      I will not promise the NEVER make any class unique things for spell research, but I certainly have no plans for doing so.
      Ngreth Thergn

      Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
      Grandmaster Smith 250
      Master Tailor 200
      Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

      Comment


      • #4
        Another "future research" question I've been wondering about is whether the expected changes around SoF time will obsolete the newer recipes (61+). Mainly I'm wondering so that I make sure to use all my current components before they're not useful anymore. Thanks for any feedback.

        Sivas

        Comment


        • #5
          The 61+ research parchments use the "systematic spell research system" which is what everything is being consolidated to. So in theory all those parchments should still be usable. The consolidation is to get rid of all the words of XXX and rune of XXX and partial pages and crap that are in from LoY and old world. It clears up the mobs drop tables as well as unifies the whole research system =)

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by BeltiraBelkira View Post
            The 61+ research parchments use the "systematic spell research system" which is what everything is being consolidated to. So in theory all those parchments should still be usable. The consolidation is to get rid of all the words of XXX and rune of XXX and partial pages and crap that are in from LoY and old world. It clears up the mobs drop tables as well as unifies the whole research system =)
            Correct.

            I am not clearing the old drops yet. It is just too time consuming at this time. And I have not made 100% decision on disabling the old rune/word/page/etc recipies imidiately. but they will be going.
            Ngreth Thergn

            Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
            Grandmaster Smith 250
            Master Tailor 200
            Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

            Comment


            • #7
              So will this new system replace all research? or just post 61?

              Basicly just curious. I came back to the game after 3 years off. Started off brand new, and am now in need of getting the stuff for my level 22 and up mage pets and stuff.
              Maloc -?? Mage Stromm - Nothing mastered...Yet.
              Flungmuk 63 Ogre Warrior Sol Ro- Retired - 190 Fletching
              Quinn 22 Enchanter Sol Ro- retired - 210 brewing, 180 tailoring, 160 Baking.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Flungmuk View Post
                So will this new system replace all research? or just post 61?

                Basicly just curious. I came back to the game after 3 years off. Started off brand new, and am now in need of getting the stuff for my level 22 and up mage pets and stuff.
                This system is already in place for spells post 61.

                This change will convert all existing spell recipes for lvl 1-60 spells to this new system.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by Eanelder View Post
                  This system is already in place for spells post 61.

                  This change will convert all existing spell recipes for lvl 1-60 spells to this new system.
                  Good to know, thank you.
                  Now I just need to deside if I can wait for the expansion to get my pets or go farm LOIO. To Alt or, not to Alt.
                  Maloc -?? Mage Stromm - Nothing mastered...Yet.
                  Flungmuk 63 Ogre Warrior Sol Ro- Retired - 190 Fletching
                  Quinn 22 Enchanter Sol Ro- retired - 210 brewing, 180 tailoring, 160 Baking.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    So I will be able to research some spells that are currently mage only, necro only etc...?

                    Got a guildy that wants the mage 47-49 pet spells...

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      As far as I have heard, any int caster with the appropriate research skill should be able to make any researchable spell for any class.

                      There may be one or 2 exceptions ... but I cant think of any.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn View Post
                        Correct.

                        I am not clearing the old drops yet. It is just too time consuming at this time. And I have not made 100% decision on disabling the old rune/word/page/etc recipies imidiately. but they will be going.
                        So I don't have to use up all my old runes and pages before SOF release? The past couple of days I have been making as many spells as I can with my old spell reserach stuff so that they did not go to waste like some of my cultural armor stuff did when I ran out of time when that change went live.
                        Kekenewah Silverfire: 82 High Elf Wizard: Drinal Server salvage 3
                        300 Jeweler (plus 15%) & JM3, 300 Smith w/ SM3 (plus 15%), 248 brewer (plus 5%), 300 tailor (plus 15% & TM3), 200 baker, 217 Pottery (plus 5%), 200 Fisherman, 300 spell research w/ AT3 (plus 15%)
                        Kekema: 81 gnome magician 250 fletcher (plus 5%), 215 tinkerer (plus 5%)
                        Kekero: 65 dwarf rogue 300 make poison (plus 12%)
                        Keketrol: 74 troll shaman 300 alchemist w/ AM3 (plus 15%) salvage 3
                        Kekecha: 75 Erudite enchanter 122 smith (plus 5%)
                        Kekenebog: 59 Ogre warrior 203 blacksmith (plus 5%)
                        Kekera: 62 halfling ranger: 189 blacksmith (plus 5%)
                        Keneken: 75 dark elf necro: 112 tailor (plus 5%)
                        Keke 70 High Elf wizard on Mayong 300 plus 12% research with AT3

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kekenewah View Post
                          So I don't have to use up all my old runes and pages before SOF release? The past couple of days I have been making as many spells as I can with my old spell reserach stuff so that they did not go to waste like some of my cultural armor stuff did when I ran out of time when that change went live.
                          Use em. I got the changes in. They will be with SoF
                          Ngreth Thergn

                          Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
                          Grandmaster Smith 250
                          Master Tailor 200
                          Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I have been waiting for this change to go into effect for sooo long. I am really looking forward to it.
                            Strokker~Fennin Ro
                            What makes a man a man? A friend of mine once wondered. Is it his origins? The way he comes to life? I don't think so. It's the choices he makes. Not how he starts things, but how he decides to end them.John Myer~Hellboy 2004

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn View Post
                              Use em. I got the changes in. They will be with SoF
                              Thanks for the confirmation Ngreth. Looks like I will continue to make a lot of spells before the release next week. Will the spell scrolls I make still be able to be scribed after the changes go live next week? I have 5 Remove Greater Curses I made last night that I don't want to go to waste.
                              Kekenewah Silverfire: 82 High Elf Wizard: Drinal Server salvage 3
                              300 Jeweler (plus 15%) & JM3, 300 Smith w/ SM3 (plus 15%), 248 brewer (plus 5%), 300 tailor (plus 15% & TM3), 200 baker, 217 Pottery (plus 5%), 200 Fisherman, 300 spell research w/ AT3 (plus 15%)
                              Kekema: 81 gnome magician 250 fletcher (plus 5%), 215 tinkerer (plus 5%)
                              Kekero: 65 dwarf rogue 300 make poison (plus 12%)
                              Keketrol: 74 troll shaman 300 alchemist w/ AM3 (plus 15%) salvage 3
                              Kekecha: 75 Erudite enchanter 122 smith (plus 5%)
                              Kekenebog: 59 Ogre warrior 203 blacksmith (plus 5%)
                              Kekera: 62 halfling ranger: 189 blacksmith (plus 5%)
                              Keneken: 75 dark elf necro: 112 tailor (plus 5%)
                              Keke 70 High Elf wizard on Mayong 300 plus 12% research with AT3

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X