Wish List: Quest for 1750ers, no flags

[Emelyn]

So, here I am, 6 skills 250, working on the last one. And I wistfully follow the threads on Aid Grimel knowing that it would be a very long time before could ever start it - you see its the flags that hold me back.

I had heaps and heaps of fun working on PoTC when it was new. I did most of the parts myself, even though they were tradable and some of my skills were weak. It was tremendously fun and rewarding. But that's just it, the parts are all tradeable. And everyone buys the parts in the bazaar and has this earring now. It somewhat diminishes it.

I finished my shawl quite a while ago. I love it, yay!

One post in the Aid Grimel thread has me curious, are parts of this MQable? Ugh if so. But that's beside the point.

And so, with 1750 just around the corner, I find myself wishing for a quest that is specifically targetted at those who tradeskill, and not at ONLY uberguilders who tradeskill. Something like, requires all 7 skills (maybe 8, toss in fishing). Must be at 250 (modified or unmodified) to attempt. No resulting parts are droppable. And DOESN'T require you to be in the server's top 3 guilds to even begin. Just a tradeskillers quest.

I am in a family type guild, average level 62. We do raid regularly but only a couple days a week, can do some good stuff, don't get me wrong. But most the folks in my guild are all adults with jobs and kids and other outside responsibilities. We don't all live and breath EQ every moment of the day. We will eventually get some of these flags. But probably not all.

But I think a quest for the rest of the 1750ers, those who can't or don't want to join a hard core raiding guild is really lacking here. There should be something for those who love tradeskills, and have sought that form of enjoyment out of the game, who are perhaps more casual players in the raiding front. Or who maybe prefer a good group in a dungeon with 5 friends over a raid of 60+ hardcore people.

[Verdandi]

Sounds like a great idea to me. Have you sent it to the Powers That Be? I'd guess they read around here sometimes, but it can't hurt to send it directly via /feedback or to eqmail@soe.sony.com.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea. I'm in a similar boat, a raiding guild that can't hit the really big targets but has a heckuva lot of fun at the targets we do hit. We'll probably get to that stuff someday, but by then there will have been another five expansions and everyone else will be level 80. :roll: I'm currently 250 smithing with 200 in all the others so it'd be nice to have a quest to justify putting all those AA's into tradeskills rather than more practical stuff.

[Celestieal Tunemaker]

Giving this some thought, I think it would be cool, if not in this expansion, but in the next "high end" expansion, that there's a 250 tradeskill quest that has multiple routes, one for people who are aggressive in grogressing through the storyline, and one for people who play more casual, but still enjoy the trades. Maybe the quest can start out the same, but it vears off after a couple of the steps are done.

And if you choose to take the more casual route, you would, in turn, have to turn in the finished result of that part of the quest to go for the more aggresive result.

Just an idea, though.

[Alyxia]

Very good ideas, I like them very much.

I'm also in the same boat...small guild, and in an alliance with a lot of casual players. Someday, we'll be able to hit the big targets, but that will be months and months and months later, if ever. And even if that happens, raiding constantly to get those flags for Aid Grimel, is not what I find fun.

This is only my opinion, but I would guess that the majority of people that achieve 1750, would not be in high end raiding guilds. Khoren seems to be, but I really think he is one of the exceptions. There was a reason I turned down my friend's offer to try to get into her guild, because they are a high end guild, and I would feel suffocated, at not being able to do my tradeskills.

[Velurian]

The only 1750 on E'ci is also in a top-end raiding guild (Nyteshadow, Reconstructed). I don't think that being in a high-end guild necessarily affects one's chances of hitting 1750, or, rather, it can happen either way -- either a lone or small-guild tradeskiller who invests great amounts of time in the trades, or a high-end-guild tradeskiller who has a great deal of support from the guild.

I intend to hit 1750 at some point, and I very much like the ideas mentioned here. (Though I've just joined a guild that's becoming more active raiding-wise, so I've been taking the skills slower lately, in favor of raiding and levelling quicker. But our guild, while ambitious, is a LONG way from raiding the elemental planes or even Tier 3 planes, so I'm not holding out hope for the high-end tradeskill quests, and I very much hope the Powers That Be would take a suggestion like the ones mentioned here...)

[Gorgin]

I think the # of 1750s in raiding guild might suprise some people. I know Khoren and Molasar and myself all are in Elemental Plane guilds doing stuff like The Rathe, Coirnav and Xegony and are still 1750s, we're just addicts to this game.

[Tinile]

I definately agree that another high level trade skill quest is needed. Actually, after reading this post, I now feel two new quests are needed. One, as described above, that gets you a NO DROP item that requires you to do the whole quest yourself, with all NO DROP pieces and also another PotC type quest that we can make ourselves and sell pieces for. Single target KEI anyone?

[Sealody]

I think the # of 1750s in raiding guild might suprise some people. I know Khoren and Molasar and myself all are in Elemental Plane guilds doing stuff like The Rathe, Coirnav and Xegony and are still 1750s, we're just addicts to this game.

That statement is more accurate then most think.

When guild isn't raiding, most of us don't need to exp anymore. So what do some people do during their 'offtimes'? We PL alts/twinks... or tradeskills.

I know of several 1750s or just about that in guild.

[Emelyn]

Hmm, I never said that people in very high end guilds don't tradeskill. I know very well that they do, on my server too.

What I said, was that there was a very large community of tradeskillers who are not in very high end guilds, and have no desire to join high end guilds.

I actually happen to think there are more obsessive tradeskillers that are not in high end guilds than there are high end guilders who have a passion for tradeskilling though.

Anyway, yes I do plan to suggest this, wanted to pass it around here to get feedback and suggestions before I did though.

[Spiritseeker]

I think that maybe Verant thought about this, or they would have made the quests use no drop components. Everything used in the Aid Grimel quest is droppable, so while it may be a while before the 'uberguilds' decide to pass on some of the ingredients, it is possible for those people that will never/at least no time soon, obtain the required flags.

Edit: just rememebred that you need the correct flags to speak to him, oops! Sorry :/

[Taushar]

I myself is not in a high end guild but I consider myself a higher end tradeskiller. My guild has only about a dozen over level 60 and while we do many raids, only a few of us are past the PoV/PoS key. I do a lot of collecting items from BoT and PoV for tradeskills, they only constitute a small percentrage my overall combine numbers.

I am trying to get to 1750 club pretty much on my own. I can count on one hand the number of times guildie or a friend helped me out with a lot of farming for items. I would say less than 10 stacks of combines worth. I am intent on doing this on my own and so far I have 3 GMs, close to GM on 2 more and at least 192 on rest. It will probably take a while to get there but I don't expect too much help from either the guild or my friends.

Lastly, I do agree that some kind of high end tradeskill quests are needed that does not involve higher level planes access. I certainly don't think I will be in tier 4 planes any time soon.

Taushar

[Nyteshadow]

okies, that was kinda odd, browsing this thread see my name come up, realizing that both that thread and this one are probably off topic (as some others). My guild did not support my tradeskills in the least, everything that I did was done outside of our raid time, which happens to be 7 days a week, manantory. If you are online, you have to be at the raids. Now guild support on my skills has a totally different meaning, now that everything I did for my own enjoyment, both pleasure and profit, is of extreme benifit to the guild, it gets treated a lil better LOL, I was always the wacked out necro workin on skills and makin stuff till PoP came out....

And yes, I agree with the originator of this post.. I just happened to have skills AND be in a guild that got me the flags to do the Aide Grimel quest. But for those who do the tradeskills, devote so much time and energy to them, what is there if they don't belong to a top guild? And it does follow along with the rest of PoP... there really isn't alot there for those who are not in top guilds... it really should be addressed.

[Demorgoth]

Nearlt 1750 and officer in server uberguild (2/4 ele gods dead, corinav a whisker away)

I think a noflag tradeskill quest is an excellent idea.

[Salison Silverspell]

Or how about just a way to combine the many tradeskill trophies into one somewhat nicer item? Have it at 7% instead of 5%, and have it work for all tradeskills.

Just a thought.

[Woodeckt]

I love this idea as I am the highest char in my guild we do not raid heck we do not meet it is a tradeskill guild only there are more /gu 190 brewing woot then ding heard ever.

I also like the idea of progressive trophies let me explain:

1 Skill Done = 1 Trophy like now

2 Sillls Done = Make 2 Trophy then combine to make XXX Trophy mod both skills

3 Skills DOne = see above but add new XXX trophy and new one for new skill

etc till 7th one

7th one combine with all rest either all at once or structured as above = Master Artisian Trophy primary secondary range +100 cha +100 str +25 wis +25 Int summon bag different than the one we get now.

What do you all think??