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  • Is there a use for high pottery skill?

    I came back to EQ after a 2 year hiatus, and have been steadily working through the different tradeskills. It seems to me that pottery in particular lacks a compelling reason
    to reach the higher levels - anything above the 240 mark doesn't clearly produce any product that people actually need. This is the only tradeskill where this is true:

    Baking and brewing yield steady income from food/drink, and there are valuable items
    with high trivials.

    Fletching has high-end bows.
    Smithing and tailoring are difficult to raise, but there is a definite market for high-end
    crafted items.
    Jewelcraft has the OoW augments.

    By contrast, pottery has no obvious high-end utility:

    With various AAs available there is no market for Faithstones, and this has been
    true for years.

    The main utility of the planar pottery was in the focus effects. These are now
    largely available as DoN augments or accessible through tribute.

    Charms are of very limited utility - typically requiring complete armor sets and inferior
    to easily obtained items. It doesn't help that they are splintered into numerous subtypes.
    Based on data from third-party sites (e.g. eqecon) very few of these end up in the
    bazaar, so crafters are not using them for whatever reason.

    Has there been any thought given to logical extensions of the previous uses for
    pottery that would reward the high expense of reaching 300? e.g.

    Focus augments that mimic the PoP pottery effects?
    Advanced PoP pottery that used the first tier items as ingredients?
    With better stats, items like the Ceramic Gavel of Justice could find a market..
    Or with the same effects as the PoP pottery, but as a augment, people
    might be willing to use them with items that have better stats, etc.

  • #2
    I think the Faith/soulstones still have a bit of a market, but not as much now that origin is out. The rest of the items have fallen by the wayside unfortunately. As I understand it pottery is one of the tradeskills they are currently looking at for a revamp, although there is no saying when it will happen or what all it will entail.

    The only real reasons to raise pottery at the moment would be
    -if you're wanting to make one of the tradeskill charms
    -if you have made the artisan charm and want to raise the stats
    -or if you just want to say you have it at 300

    Q
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    Exemplar of the Drunken Bearded Ones



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    One equal temper of heroic hearts,
    Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will,
    To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yeild.

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    • #3
      I've always been a slow leveler, and the idea of having AAs to spare is alien to me, so I find the utility recipes - faithstones, crucibles, etc - and focus items very functional. But that's part of the fun of TSing, there's always another use.

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      • #4
        I think pottery has been neglected for many years, but I remember hearing they want to bring it back to being useful again. Unfortunately if it's cheap to skill up, and pottery is compared to smithing or tailoring, the "viability factor" to make money off it won't be high.

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        • #5
          I think pottery is used in all alchemel(sp) recipies now.

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          • #6
            It's cheap to get pottery to a modest level (to 199 almost free, 222 with opal steins isn't bad). Above that it gets pricey, although there is a store-bought path all the way to 300 if you're so inclined. Since star ruby steins no longer have a decent tribute value, paying ~1400 pp/skill point (70 cost per stein by 20 per skillup on average) from 283-300 (and, with a source of mana vials+imbued emeralds, 560 pp/skill point between 223-282 with unfired idols of tunare) is currently a waste of 50K plat.

            Given that there is a storebought path - albeit one that is more expensive than baking/brewing/fletching (WE/Halfling only) - you'd probably want pretty high trivials for the higher end items. It'd be nice if there were items with some market to justify the expense, that's all.

            Any thoughts on promising paths?
            Last edited by Aaneras; 11-28-2006, 10:02 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Aaneras View Post
              Since star ruby steins no longer have a decent tribute value, paying ~1400 pp/skill point (70 cost per stein by 20 per skillup on average) from 283-300
              Just checked on Lucy's and the tribute value for a Star Ruby Encrusted Steins is 234. Not too bad IMHO.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by SeeboSteele View Post
                Just checked on Lucy's and the tribute value for a Star Ruby Encrusted Steins is 234. Not too bad IMHO.
                It's OK, but you can do far better with other common items. I have a list of about 40 items that I can find in the bazaar almost every day that have tribute 10-40 times sales value (mostly lore weapons and armor). Recent gear inflation has drastically devalued items that would have fetched prices 10x higher a couple of years ago. Another way of looking at it: at least on my server (Fennin Ro) there is virtually no one putting the steins up for sale...which indicates a distinct lack of a market.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zaltak
                  I think pottery is used in all alchemel(sp) recipies now.
                  Alchemy? Pottery is used for a few recipes (provides a nice, all-store-bought route from 210 - 231) like this one . But probably 95 percent of alchemy recipes don't require pottery.

                  But I leveled pottery up for the sake of my artisan's charm.
                  Posatrocible Disasterocity
                  Alchemy 300
                  Smithing 300
                  Brewing 300
                  Tailoring 300
                  JC 300
                  Baking 300
                  Pottery 300
                  Fletching 300

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