Cost?

[Khama]

What did it cost you to take jewelcraft from 0 - 250 ?

What do you think the minimum amount would be for someone just starting out?

[Tolen]

The big numbers can be intimidating, but JC is actually one of the cheaper skills to raise to 250 (brewing excluded), and by far the easiest. 2 items per combine, all store-bought, all stackable, and a sell-back rate that comes extraordinarily close to breaking even...if you enchant the metal, you can even turn a profit just selling to the shop. With no enchanting, I went from 0 to 200 JC at a total loss of around 2k. From 200 to 250 the total loss was probably in the 7-8k range. Just do each subsequently harder item, up the skill ladder, and stay as close to your skill as possible, to avoid as many failed combines as you can, and JC is very cheap.


*edit: would advise a starting money pool of around 20k, just to make sure you can buy stacks of what you need.

[Axterix EnObelix]

And, of course, use a geerlok once you get up there a bit. That 5% skill boost will help reduce the overall cost quite a bit when you're working with combines that run over 100 plat each.

[Hippo]

Cost me around 17k including trophy.

[Khama]

I was hoping for some more answers.

Got kind of a bet going on with this.

Guy says GM Jewelcraft can be done for UNDER 3K - I say no way not under 5K ... more like 8-10K range

Anyone else wanna chime in?

[Lacries]

One will find the combines that involve the silver, electrum, and gold, which are enchanted and when combined will sell for a about 5pp more than they would sell if not enchanted. This 5pp difference will allow for an extra bar of metal per so many combines. However, the failure of 1 combine will even things out to where one would have started.

All of this being said...IF... and it is a BIG IF...ALL metals are enchanted then a person can reasonably do JC for 5kish or possibly less. The determining factor is the failure rate. Provided a person does not fail frequently, it would be possible with all enchanted metals. Without enchanting the metals, there is a big deficit in the skill ups. It would then be easy to sink 4k going from 220 - 250 skill points.

I say all this because when I skilled up JC, I enchanted every silver, electrum, and gold bar., but by the time I got to platinum I would enchant the bars I had mana to enchant and in my med time I would not enchant platinum and there was a considerable difference...that 5pp difference in sell back from enchanted to not enchanted does add up.

I hope this give you some direction Khama.

[Khama]

Oh I am 250 GM Jeweler with Trophy .... so this isnt a big deal for me, its just for this disagreement.

Took me about 8 - 10 K to GM - but I also gave away a few items here and there to guildies.

Somone else however said that as an enchanter, you can GM jewelcraft for under 3 K. I myself find that impossible, and dissagreed with it.

I wanted to see if anyone else out there thought this was possible? I just dont see it happening under 5 K.

8 - 10 K seems the avarage to me, but I could be wrong - Thats why I decided to ask all of you!

Anyone out there PERSONALY do GM jewlery for under 3K? Under 5K?

[Cravin]

There is 1 way this MIGHT and I say MIGHT be possible. if you had aquired JCM3 then maybe. ( I personaly am not an enchanter and I dont know the pre requirements for the JCM AA) but I could see that reduceing failures enough to get there under 5K. Please feel free to shoot me down on this would be good to know just cause.

[Lothay]

There is 1 way this MIGHT and I say MIGHT be possible. if you had aquired JCM3 then maybe. ( I personaly am not an enchanter and I dont know the pre requirements for the JCM AA) but I could see that reduceing failures enough to get there under 5K. Please feel free to shoot me down on this would be good to know just cause.

Ugh - that's 59+ and 27 AA Points. Ouch.

~Lothay

[ozyer81]

it is POSSIBLE

Okay,

I am an enchanter on the nameless and I maxxed all the way out from 0-250 for a grand total of 3400-3500pp.

It got a little more expensive at the end because I just got so darn sick of waiting for my mana to regen so I could enchant the platinum bars (even with C5, BST crack, and PoT9 at times)

What I am saying is that it is totally possible. What would one need to accomplish Grandmaster JC with under 3k?
1) A geerlok of at least 5%...no exceptions
2) Must be an enchanter capable of enchanting all the way up to platinum (so lvl 29+ i believe)
3) Must be VERY VERY patient and be willing to wait for mana to regen before combining un-enchanted metals.

For me, the reason I was able to accomplish it so cheap I think is that I was doing other things around the house while working my JC...enchant a stack of platinum, combining the stack, sell the stack....clean something...rinse/repeat. Just make sure that u are patient and under 3k is no problem, only reason I went above 3k is that I got impatient at about 245, but at 244 (platinum-jade combos) I just got impatient, but I was at bout 2700 spent total at that point....

Anyhow I just got sick of the time spent and was getting close to late for a raid and since I'd just made a killing cashing in on my tailoring skills I figured hey, WTF and so I pushed my skill from 244 to 250, only enchanting bout every third stack of platinum since that's all I had the mana for.

Ozyer
58 enchanter
Grandmaster Jeweler

P.S. I did 207-250 all on friday, 6-6-03, so it is very current info

P.S.S. This all said, if your friend doesn't seem like the very miticulous, patient type he is probably full of crap cause I about lost my mind once I got to platinum!

[brial]

about 10k for me... and yes, way too lazy and impatient to enchant anything.

[LolineShahirizai]

My cost

I did JC up to 244 and made a trophy (first try- woohoo) for a total of about 8k. I didn't enchant anything (61 WE druid), and I used my geerlok the entire time. I didn't find JC to be that expensive until I hit 200, and the only reason I think it IS that expensive, is you need to "front the cash" up front. You need the large starting capital just to buy enough to make it worthwhile. For the longest, I was able to buy 2 stacks of gems and 2 stacks of bars. Once I started to run out of immediate funds (ie. too lazy to run my trader), I was working with 6 stacks of each. Best way I can recommend is, if yr not an enchanter, and you start to get a bad run on the RNG, STOP IMMEDIATELY. Come back, and it might be a little nicer to you. I usually had a run anywhere between 249 and 260 wisdom (was only 59 when I started) as well. Hope this helps!

[Moonlilly]

Roughly 3k PROFIT going from 0 to 250 using enchanted metals.

[Jaytee Bushwacker]

if you make a profit on any tradeskill during the skillup process /bow im expecting a heavy dent in my bank.

[Aeleric The Wanderer]

From my own experience, I would say 3k is not realistic. It *might* have been possible -- after all, they could have hunted for quite a few of the gems (i.e. no cost), or did free combines, or the RNG really liked them! However I think I may have dumped 10k into achieving 250 myself -- albiet I started off at level 8 and did not wait to have maxed my int first. So I guess I am saying that 10-15k would be more of a realistic expectation to pay to go from 0-250, and if the RNG likes you maybe the trophy as well (I got mine first try - RNG was nice :shock: ), and if you end up spending less, more power to you!