Cost?

[Jarak_akn]

If you sell in the bazzar then you can turn a profit once you get to gold.

At the moment I have just hit 202 and level 33 so I'm about to start on the plat items. I have been Enchanting about 80% of what I make and I would guess that I'm only a few hundred plat down so far, if that.
My last session from 198 to 202 I made 150pp selling to a vendor.
I think the previous session I went from 192 to 198 and lost about 400pp (too many fails) however ...

I have also made about 2k in the bazzar in a month of selling gold items. This more than makes up for the random fails.

Treelore

[randalin]

One will find the combines that involve the silver, electrum, and gold, which are enchanted and when combined will sell for a about 5pp more than they would sell if not enchanted. This 5pp difference will allow for an extra bar of metal per so many combines. However, the failure of 1 combine will even things out to where one would have started.

I'm sorry, but in my experience with silver and electrum thus far (starting on gold work tonight) I have not seen any difference in sell-back pricing between enchanted and non enchanted bars or completed items.

(Buying and selling with 167 charisma and amiable faction)

If it meant I'd get more money back, I'd gladly spend the time enchanting. Well, maybe not without a good mana regen buff. Breeze just can't come close to keeping up.

Is there something I'm missing?

Qalymn
Enchanter-22nd level

[crimson69]

After reading what you guys say about GMing Jewelcrafting for under even 10k I am amazed. What is the cheapest route in which to follow when trying to become a GM jewelcrafter, I have access to a 65 enchanter so i can enchant everything. So if someone doesn't mind can you please tell me the "route" in which to pursue.

[Aavar]

With Maxed out int and enchanting all metals , well gold and platinum especially, using a geerlock and going slowly using each progresive gem until u trivial it you can turn a profit. By using the easiest gem you can you cut down on fails. Failures is where you lose the money obviously.
Otherwise you make about a 5% profit on each combine.

[eqNichola]

Qalymn: The profit-if-you-use-enchanted-metal phenomenon only applies to gold and platinum, not silver or electrum.

[Brodybeard]

After reading what you guys say about GMing Jewelcrafting for under even 10k I am amazed. What is the cheapest route in which to follow when trying to become a GM jewelcrafter, I have access to a 65 enchanter so i can enchant everything. So if someone doesn't mind can you please tell me the "route" in which to pursue.

Check out Gumkak's most excellent web site: www.valendor.org/gumkak/ as suggested in the Jewelcraft FAQ at the top of this forum.

[randalin]

Qalymn: The profit-if-you-use-enchanted-metal phenomenon only applies to gold and platinum, not silver or electrum.

Thank you! That would explain it. I'll probably get to see it soon then. I'm planning to start my gold work tonight if I can get that last bit of experience (I need it to get enchant gold, and I want to be able to make an enchanted one of anything nice I have the skill for )

[randalin]

One will find the combines that involve the silver, electrum, and gold, which are enchanted and when combined will sell for a about 5pp more than they would sell if not enchanted. This 5pp difference will allow for an extra bar of metal per so many combines. However, the failure of 1 combine will even things out to where one would have started.

I hope this give you some direction Khama.

Based upon my observations (didn't get to make 24 last night, so I'm not sure about gold): Silver and Electrum do NOT improve your selling price by being enchanted. I have been told that Gold and Platinum do.

My latest research on the matter was 10-JUN-2003. As soon as I hit level 24 and add the enchant gold spell to my repetoire, I will be able to confirm for myself whether there is a difference between enchanted and non-enchanted gold jewelry when selling to a merchant.

I might point out that by selling enchanted jewelry to a merchant you make it available (and establish a price in the minds of new players) to anyone who happens to decide to buy it. I haven't looked at the prices merchants charge to buy an item back from them, but they are likely outrageous.

Qalymn (22nd lvl Enchanter -- Tunare)

[Morani]

I might point out that by selling enchanted jewelry to a merchant you make it available (and establish a price in the minds of new players) to anyone who happens to decide to buy it. I haven't looked at the prices merchants charge to buy an item back from them, but they are likely outrageous.

Well, it is; if you consider over 800 plat for a ring that's +2 to two stats outrageous....

[Lacries]

Based upon my observations (didn't get to make 24 last night, so I'm not sure about gold): Silver and Electrum do NOT improve your selling price by being enchanted. I have been told that Gold and Platinum do.

It is my understanding that when charisma is good and faction is good, sell back or purchase all are at best prices. It would only make sense that any metal when enchanted will have a better sell back value to the vendor as opposed to non-enchanted metal jewelry due to the fact that enchanted metals when combined will give stats. I know I would not pay the price for a non-stat ring versus a ring with stats. I will recheck and make a piece of chanted silver and electrum versus non enchanted silver and electrum pieces and compare sell back price tonight. Mainly because it would not make sense for anyone to enchant silver or electrum unless there was some type of advantage in doing so.

[sjsell]

LaCries As far as I can remember, once your faction is indiff, your CHA only needs to like 108 or so to get max. I guess there's a few NPC's that are close to banks that you need to have higher CHA, but haven't actually verified that. As far as enchanting, I just went from 0 to 200 last weekend and it wasn't really worth it until gold bars (even the low gold bars combines like malachite weren't worth it) and higher gems. then it made quite a difference. at the 198 skill, the sell back was about 3pp to 4pp higher than the cost of the gem and the bar. I'm sure at plat bars it's even more worth it. Hope that helps. Oh and so far I think i've spent about 3k at the most. I started with 10k and have about 4k left at 200, but I have 2 stacks of Plat bars and ALOT of bought gems totalling at least 2k.

Fallan Furtoes
Hairy Foot Druid of 59 Seasons

Tailoring 150
Baking 209/Grandmaster Spoon
Brewing 200
Jewelcrafting 200
Fishing 200
Fletching 112
Pottery 146
Smithing 35(have a hard time reaching that tall forge)

[Impudent]

HIE Cleric here.

Ally faction, 104'ish CHA

Non-enchanted bars..

Has cost me about 7k to get to 209, so far.

[john123]

If you're an enchanter and,

you enchant the bars and,

you are holding a gearlok and,

you only practice on the very next gem/bar untill trivial and,

you sell your jewelry back to the vendor then,

you will have MORE platinum when you hit 250 than when you started, you only lose thousands of plat when you dont enchant the bars.

I had about 5k when i was 180ish, i had 8k when 250 hit, just from rolling the successes back into the vendor over and over...

[Impudent]

Sure, it's easy to "make" money from enchanted bars, *IF* your an enchanter

[Demasia]

Doable

I completed JC to 250 for just about 3k. Because I wasn't concerned about the costs, I was down close to 3k upon reaching 200 skill. I had to buy the components for the Artisan Seal, so that added to the cost.

I am a level 65 enchanter, so it is more than possible that some of you are correct in that you cannot possibly do it for 3k. Quicker skill ups means less failures.