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  • #16
    Originally posted by Posatrocible View Post
    Enchanting stuff has always been left to enchanters (and rightly so by looking at their name). But imbuing has been undertaken by various spell-casting classes.

    If this is going to be an aa ability, I wonder if there is even the smallest chance that we could have any class/race learn it? Through aa abilities, all classes basically "cast" buffs or spells of various kinds... would it be a stretch to let anyone cast this aa to enchant palladium?
    The new thing is not imbuing either. It is Transmuting.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn View Post
      The new thing is not imbuing either. It is Transmuting.
      Again with the symantics. Call it whatever you want, theres no good reason to limit a basic tradeskill to one class.
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      • #18
        There is no limiting. Anyone can buy the metal and make the item. The difference will be that if you find an enchanter to use their skills, or a particular priest who worships a specific deity to use their skills to imbue, it adds a benefit to the item that you would otherwise not have. The trivials are (I hope) the same.

        Compare JC in its current state. Enchant the metal, combine with a gem and your item has stats. Non-enchanted metal and a gem equals no stats. Palladium was the exception, and it is going to fall in line with the rest with the revamp.

        As far as skilling up goes and the success rate you will see in making the combines, everyone is still equal.
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        • #19
          And that is your own version of semantics.

          What the enchanters make with the AA is NOT no-trade.

          If an enchanter chooses to share it, they can, and you can then make the items. I am sure there will be enchanters not at all interested in tradeskills that Might get this AA for the monetary opportunity it offers them.

          Enchanters have a leg up in Jewelry Making, and as far as I am concerned always will. I went as far as giving mastery to everyone because that one truly made sense to NOT be enchanter only. But despite that I think enchanters should have an ADVANTAGE in jewelry making. Despite this advantage it is certainly not exclusive to them.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Aldier View Post
            Compare JC in its current state. Enchant the metal, combine with a gem and your item has stats. Non-enchanted metal and a gem equals no stats. Palladium was the exception, and it is going to fall in line with the rest with the revamp.
            I thought the revamp was affecting primarily the store-bought gems. Will this affect Taafite, prestidigitase, etc.?

            I may have missed it - will existing items keep their stats post-switch? Or will my cleric (and jeweler wake up to find his taafite rings worthless?

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            Rishathra
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            • #21
              I was talking about the main bulk of JC.

              I was not referring to the Staurolite, Prestidigitase, Harmonagate, Taaffeite items.

              Also, it sounds like the revamp is going to make older jewelry recipes MORE like the new jewelry items. Where you have to make the metal into the shape you want and then cut the stone to fit that shape and then put the 2 together (or 3..4..5 depending on the number of gems).
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              • #22
                Enchanting Palliadum should be an enchanter only spell instead of an AA IMO:-)

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                • #23
                  From what has been posted, it will be a spell. The transmuting thing is a NEW metal, so I don't see it being palladium.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Zopharr View Post
                    I thought the revamp was affecting primarily the store-bought gems. Will this affect Taafite, prestidigitase, etc.?

                    I may have missed it - will existing items keep their stats post-switch? Or will my cleric (and jeweler wake up to find his taafite rings worthless?

                    Garshok
                    It has not been 100% decided.
                    You will ethier...
                    Keep what you have... and not be able to make more...
                    or
                    You will have a new equivalent ring.

                    I expect the former.
                    Ngreth Thergn

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Zaltak View Post
                      Enchanting Palliadum should be an enchanter only spell instead of an AA IMO:-)
                      It is.

                      The AA is ANOTHER metal.
                      Ngreth Thergn

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                      • #26
                        Will there be a large increase in the stats on the new metal (assume a new top end gem too) combination? Currently, if group content is supposed to go to 500 hp/mana (with a powersource) is it conceivable that the jewelry will receive a similar boost?

                        Also, is there any purity that can be added to the new jewelry to gain the benefits from a powersource?

                        I am not sure if purity was just limited to visible armor.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ngreth Thergn View Post
                          It has not been 100% decided.
                          You will ethier...
                          Keep what you have... and not be able to make more...
                          or
                          You will have a new equivalent ring.

                          I expect the former.
                          Can we get a heads up - after it is decided - on what will happen with the jewelery recipes?

                          I'm sitting on lots of prestidigitase and a few taaffite. Intead of eating up lots of bag space I'll check my vendor twice a day and restock as required. Would be good to know if I will "not be able to make more" so I can start emptying backs and making jewelry.

                          Thanks,

                          Garshok
                          Garshok
                          95th Dreadlord, Povar-Quellious, 300 Ogre Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
                          (glad the climb to 300 is finally over)

                          Zopharr
                          95th Priest of Brell, Povar-Quellious, 300 Dwarven Grand Master Smith, 300 all skills
                          (holds his 15% smithing trophy in his off hand and pretends to dual-wield - and hopes the Holy Dirt of Brell he's carried for twelve years will have a use in the new expansion)

                          Rishathra
                          95th Shaman of Inny, Povar-Quellious, 300 Troll Grand Master Smith
                          (got so tired of looking for a troll smith for armor that I made one)

                          Marzanna
                          95th Necromancer, Povar-Quellious, 300 Tinker - Tailor
                          (still working on Solder, Spy)

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                          • #28
                            The gems will still be useable, they just may be in different recipes. For equal or better (perhaps?) stats.
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                            • #29
                              Shoot! How did I entierly miss this thread until now?!? Good info and thanks to the House Ogre for the heads up!
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                              • #30
                                In this revamp very few if any items will become useless.
                                Ngreth Thergn

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