Patch message - cool change for tradeskills

[Justicator Loremeister]

From today's patch message:

** Tradeskills **

- Tradeskill chance of failures changed - The higher your skill is over the trivial of the combine, the less likely you are to fail with a combine. This is a reduction on the chance to always fail.

- Stackable - Ice Burrower Silk, Pie Tins and Muffin Tins are now stackable.

Woot! Very cool!!!

[Delandril]

Why would anyone care if pie tins and muffin tins are stackable? the silk I can see.

[Itek]

Why?

People making them for skill ups probably. Or to sell.

Making "general inventory" or "unstackable" items can quickly become a pain.

100 attempts at Misty Thicket Picnics... painful.

100 attempts at any tailored item (presuming you saved up enough components, which do stack, to make that many in a row) .... painful squared because of REPEATED trips to a vendor to sell off each success.... one at a time.

Remember "buying and selling stacks at a time" and how wonderful it was?

(Just wish they would make it possible again to sell things out of a bag by attempting to sell the bag.)

[Magrath]

Why would anyone care if pie tins and muffin tins are stackable?

I have several pie tins in my kitchen drawer. They stack, durnit.

Besides, it's awfully convenient when tradeskill utensils stack. When filleting meat, for instance, I always keep two filleting knives on me. If I fail a combine, I almost invariably drop the knife into the auto-equip slot accidentally since I expected to wind up with a fillet on my pointer. Having the second knife in inventory guarantees that I'll know exactly which bag my knife went into without having to rummage through my bags.

[Alyxia]

(Just wish they would make it possible again to sell things out of a bag by attempting to sell the bag.)

Yes! I knew I wasn't imagining things! I faintly remember we could do this, long time ago, but while I was trying to explain this to some people recently, they just stared at me with a blank look!

[Brodybeard]

It would be nice to have stackable non-stick fry pans for my Bazaar trader, but pie pans also sell every so often... so this is a Good Thing.

[Greymantle]

Now if they would just make bowstrings stack....

[Gnarl]

I just wish the skill failure mod went both ways. I mean, a GM Fletcher should NOT fail as often on the lowest possible recipe, and we all agree on that, but, a person with a 1 skill in fletching should NOT be able to get their GM badge by buying 20 attempts at it! I think they should've made teh failure rates scale based on your skill level compared to the trivial skill threshold for the item.

Thus, a GM fletcher with the easiest possible recipe might fail one in a hundred attempts. A skill 1 fletcher trying a 250 skill recipe might succeed ONCE in a hundred tries. <sigh> Hope they get this soon too...

GnarliAnna

[OberonMiM]

they removed the ability to sell things out of the bag (about 1 year after i reported it) because it allowed you to sell items vendors wouldn't buy (not the no drop ones)

I once accidently sold a paw of opalla that way (luckily i bought it back an instant later for 0 money

[Sayleth]

This was an inadequate change, does that surprise anyone? 60 Black Acrylia Temper combines, which trivial at 135, with 250 brewing and the trophy, and I had 2 fails.

Sayleth

[Cavel]

So are you saying this is the same as it was prior to the patch? I am wondering because I as a smith hate failing on metal bits and metal rings when attempting the sub combines that I need to do.

When the rings Tivial at 40 and I fail in 5 out of 30 combines I just want to spit!

Hoping that at the very least we see a bit better success rates for the lower end (Pre 100) stuff.

[hagasgazoo]

I only failed 5 out of 340 on a 93 trivial with max effective skill (246+geerlok). This works out to only about 1% compared to 5% before the patch, definately much better.

[Sayleth]

I am sure they did change something, what I am saying is that you can still get screwed even when combining something that is way trivial.

Sayleth

[Ceneena]

Had my largest fail rate ever making Fierce Heraldic armor. 14 attempts and 3 successes :evil: Anyone else getting creamed in high end fails? My skill is 250 used GM Hammer and Gearlock. I camped twice and it didn't seem to change my fate. *sigh* Although, I didn't fail any of the Celestial Temper combines, that was nice for a change.

[Knomercy]

Using your hammer and geerlok together arent going to do anything. Sell that geerlok.