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  • #16
    Thankfully, I haven't received any DNC's, but something similar has happened two nights in a row in the bazaar to me (on Xev). The first night, I made a haze panther skullcap, patted myself on the back, then set up my trader. Five minutes later, the entire zone crashed. I was rolled back to before my combine, which I retried and of course failed. :P I wasn't sure of the policy for this, so I petitioned, and shortly thereafter a helpful apprentice guide informed me that he was going to elevate my request to a senior guide. I waited for quite a while but eventually had to go to bed, but left an afk message on my character telling the GM to leave a message. Of course, bazaar crashed while I was sleeping, so I have no idea whether they ever contacted me. Next night, the same thing happened after a black pantherskin boots combine. Very frustrated, I used eqlive's contact a GM page and sent an email describing my plight. Today, I received an email from a GM which basically said the following (good info to know for anyone who does high level combines):

    "Unfortunately, in a rollback your saves of the successful combine are lost so we normally can not reimburse, we would have to investigate on a case by case basis. I have a few suggestions that might help out. I know you are probably combining the items to [sell] in the Bazaar, but I would suggest to actually do the combines in either Shadowhaven or Plane of Knowledge (if you have POP) as in general those zones are less laggy and more stable. Then after you are done with your combines for the day you could travel back to Bazaar to sell. After you make the successful combines, camp out to desktop to save and then go to the Bazaar."

    I think this is reasonable advice, although I admit it's annoying that this is the way things are. Of course, if you fail several combines you can just hope for a zone crash. The moral of the story is that after succeeding a high level combine that you care about, the best bet is to camp out and come back. (I wonder, though, whether zoning wouldn't be enough. Doesn't zoning automatically save your character? That certainly seems to be an easier solution.)

    Anyhow, I realize this was *slightly* off-topic on this thread, but I hope this post might alert some tradeskiller(s) to be a bit more careful in the future than I have been in the past.
    Urnihixul Noctumbra - 84 Rogue - Druzzil Ro (Xev)
    ~Order of Seibwen, Guild Assassin Emeritus~
    ~~Ancient Fellowship~~
    ~~~In Via D***um~~~ (Boo filter.)

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    • #17
      Zoning saves your character. And logging to character select is enough as well, your character is also saved when you vanish out of the game.

      Kaysha Soulsinger
      Member of the 1750 club since October 13th 2004
      True strength is not a measure of the body, it's a measure of the soul

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      • #18
        Lost my Hickory Etched Shears due to this bug!

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        • #19
          Have most of the problems been limited to the bazaar? What about portable containers vs. fixed? I had problems crashing when banking in the Bazaar (4 crashes and 1 lost Coldain Tanner's Kit) but was successful making combines in SH and PoK.
          Pottery 159 Tailoring 188 Brewing 170 Baking 178 Smithing 205 Alchemy 114, Fishing 35, JC 15, Fletching 0

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          • #20
            Experienced this today as well, for the first time. Was smithing in the Bazaar, had been doing 80+ combines already when suddenly I got the standard DNC message. Having read this post, I was like "uh oh" ... within 10 seconds, I was back at server select. The second time it happened (20 combines or so later), I lost my Smithy Hammer.

            Kaysha Soulsinger
            Member of the 1750 club since October 13th 2004
            True strength is not a measure of the body, it's a measure of the soul

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            • #21
              So far, it's looking like the majority of the issues (if not all) have been with the bazaar. It's been happening with both portable and stationary containers.

              I've given this one extra flagging to the Dev team in hopes that they can find some method to the madness. (If they can't, then I'm hoping that one of them will come in here and ask for more specifics.)

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              • #22
                Heh, was just about to post and ask if anyone kept getting booted while using the forges in bazaar....I guess this answers my question. I've lost like 4-5 files and a bunch of various bricks of things just combining some boning. Its getting quite annoying.

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                • #23
                  Also in bazaar: my tailor was transferring some acrylia to my main, and the small pieces transferred but not the small block. The block apparently vanished, couldn't find it anywhere. Next day logged in trader and there it was back in his inventory.

                  Glad to hear that I wasn't hallucinating; I sure felt like I was.
                  Bittleaye Arkades
                  Halfling Druid of Xev
                  Sans Requiem


                  Tailoring 252 - Smithing 222 - Fishing 200 - Brewing 200 - Pottery 199 - Baking 197 - Fletching 142

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                  • #24
                    Doesn't zoning automatically save your character? That certainly seems to be an easier solution.)
                    Yet another way to force a character save is to trade something to another player (any item will do, even one copper piece). This is a very convenient way if you have a mule online on a second account
                    Huntress Legenial <Nightwatcher>

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                    • #25
                      Actually: not happening in bazaar:

                      Past 2 days, I have gathered lots of words to make celestial essence. I combine a word with celestial solvent in my mortar and pestle, and nothing happens.

                      I mean...NOTHING. These include words I've used before that worked...(one I recall was Collection: azia). I don't get a DNC message. Just...nothing.

                      Btw, I was doing this in the East Cabilis bank.
                      Grenoble
                      Iksar Shaman

                      Laedria
                      DE Wizardess and Nuker Extroardinaire

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                      • #26
                        Well, I just had another instance of it. In the bazaar, traded four studded cloaks to my trader. Could see four on my screen, but only three showed on his. Cancelled the trade and only got three back. Camped and returned but it's still gone I can't afford this!
                        Bittleaye Arkades
                        Halfling Druid of Xev
                        Sans Requiem


                        Tailoring 252 - Smithing 222 - Fishing 200 - Brewing 200 - Pottery 199 - Baking 197 - Fletching 142

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                        • #27
                          I lost a bag out of my bank over the weekend while transfering stuff in the Bazaar. I crashed to the desktop several times when closeing the banker window. and I didnt notice the bag missing till the next day. at first I thought I dropped it but the bag had 2 nodrop items in it so no way I could have dropped it.

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                          • #28
                            Bugs

                            Last night using the forge in the bazaar I had a bunch of fine combines then I froze during a combine. Sooon went to character select screen and when I got back thankfully my items were back in my bags from the forge. Also this items poofing in trades is a big issue with it affecting lots of people. I lost an item last night that I was transfering for a friend when we hit trade it poofed from both our inventories.

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                            • #29
                              Just adding to the experiences in the Bazaar. Had some cash poof during a transfer a couple of days ago, petitioned, had it reimbursed (was surprised the GM agreed to do it) later the cash turned up again upon opening a trade window as if it had been sitting on the cursor all along (no I didnt keep it heh).

                              Lost an item that I had moved out of the bank and into my inventory when I crashed in bank mode in the bazaar today. I have a guildie who has also had problems crashing in bazaar in bank mode.

                              For now, dont move anything of value around in the bank, dont do expensive combines or transfer large amounts of cash in the bazaar - this zone currently eats things!

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                              • #30
                                It is definitely not all just in the bazaar. I had this happening over the course of a few days, combining multiple different items in tailoring and smithing, in POK as well as bazaar.

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