undiscovered old~world recipies

[Chimeraian]

on a psp=bad spelln! this thread is 4 postn ideas/recipies 4 undiscovrd recipies. 1:shoulda posted when found but iceclad shrimp have a tradeskills flag now (had it back when iceclad was hotzone) 2:ikky merchant n cabilis (male baker who sells pies) gives riddles about secret ingredient 4 making all of the pies he sells but bixie berry(part of war pike quest). i believe these 2 B hidden recipies introduced with Kunark xpan. please post any other ideas on undiscovered recipies!

[Twistagain]

/Checks his Rosetta stone...

Ah, well, I don't have any information per se on any undiscovered recipes. However, I think that by now, any OLD recipes (5+ expansions?) would probably need a hint by developers (Ngreth? ) before they could be made.

I know a while back there was a post by a developer that gave a count of undiscovered recipes (although there was some confusion on whether it meant that they'd NEVER been made or that no one had the end result.)

Maybe we'll get an answer, sometime.

[Eanelder]

Does a dev have a means to find out if a recipie has ever been discovered?

Ive also wonder the same about quests since hearing in a press release that there was some insane amount of undiscovered items / quest rewards.

[daw4888]

Does a dev have a means to find out if a recipie has ever been discovered?

Ive also wonder the same about quests since hearing in a press release that there was some insane amount of undiscovered items / quest rewards.

From eqplayers you can see who was the first to obtain any item. I think this would be able to show you what items have never been made/discovered on your server..

[Bara]

From eqplayers you can see who was the first to obtain any item. I think this would be able to show you what items have never been made/discovered on your server..

Untill it is made/discovered it won't show on eqplayers is my understanding.

[Twistagain]

This is probably true for new items. However, if we are talking about items that existed in the database BEFORE EQPlayers existed, then I doubt they have discovery information available. I could, of course, be wrong.

[Lycurgus]

Fizzbins guise - a hint as to whether the Mottled cloak needed is actually in game would be nice

[Ngreth Thergn]

it is not that easy :/

#1 I have no access to EQPlayers data
#2 That data is notoriously inaccurate :/
#3 quest recipes get in the way
#4 it is not something I feel the need to spend my time on. I feel there are many much more important things to do with it

[Twistagain]

it is not that easy :/

#1 I have no access to EQPlayers data
#2 That data is notoriously inaccurate :/
#3 quest recipes get in the way
#4 it is not something I feel the need to spend my time on. I feel there are many much more important things to do with it

Hey, Ngreth...I completely understand your standpoint. Quick question, though: suppose someone (I, for instance) were to go through a list of known items with a tradeskill tag to find which ones have no known use. Would you be able to give a Yes or No (assuming the list weren't very long) as to whether they are indeed used in a recipe or not?

I'd be willing to try to tackle this...might even do it just to get people thinking about possibilities.

[Bara]

it is not that easy :/

#1 I have no access to EQPlayers data
#2 That data is notoriously inaccurate :/
#3 quest recipes get in the way
#4 it is not something I feel the need to spend my time on. I feel there are many much more important things to do with it

Aye, I have told them repeatedly (on the official SOE board) that the tradeskills shown for my main are WAY off on EQPlayers and they still have made no corrections. For goodness sake; once the toon has achieved the Master <insert tradeskill here> Title you would think EQPlayers website would be able to detect that and update to the default 300 skill.

And I think Ngreth is one smart Ogre for not getting involved with them and their website. I remember the waves of feral hate generated from folks attending the FF in Vegas last year at the mere mention of EQPlayers. I think there was a near meltdown...

[frybread]

Why would you write on a PSP?!

[Ngreth Thergn]

Hey, Ngreth...I completely understand your standpoint. Quick question, though: suppose someone (I, for instance) were to go through a list of known items with a tradeskill tag to find which ones have no known use. Would you be able to give a Yes or No (assuming the list weren't very long) as to whether they are indeed used in a recipe or not?

I'd be willing to try to tackle this...might even do it just to get people thinking about possibilities.

If I was given actual EQ item numbers (which you can get from Eqplayers... and a few of the other sites)

[Chimeraian]

reply+redirect

Y on psp=harder 2 hak(desktop has issues still). as 4 this thread, it is intended as a place 2 post ideas/potental clues 2 un-solved/-discovered recipies. not 2 talk about Y it would be hard. i'm glad this post has had so many replies already.

[Chimeraian]

new ideas

1: potato chips~i know this has been researched often but i think it is there somewhere. Update: NPCs in Shar Vhal sell payala chips(hint?) and Challie(sp?) says something about how she makes them and mentions the npc in SWT who sells payala things. (note: luclin is where many of Brodder's recipies were found)

[mewkus]

I've got a list of about 900 items that are tagged as usable in tradeskills but are not included in the EQTraders database. Presumable, most of them are quest items. But even some of the quest items are tradeskill tagged but as best I can tell aren't really tradeskill usable (not combined in anything).

For instance Mark of Leaves (id #5678, alla link:http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=12766) is used as part of the twilight sea ranger helm quest. None of the other items used in that quest are tagged as being tradeskill usable, but the Mark of Leaves is. Could it be used in some tradeskill combine that's unknown as of yet? Who knows.

Then there are a bunch of xxx Materials similar to Battlemasters Bracer Material which are also tradeskill tagged. It would appear as though they're used in the lowbie armor quests. The quest giver hands you a mold/pattern that you combine with the material (gotten by turning in a myriad of lowbie junk) that you combine in a forge/loam. I guess since it's combined in a forge/loam that it could be considered tradeskill. But do any of those combines actually use/require skill? As such should those materials still be tagged as tradeskill? or just tagged as quest?

Some of the other items I saw that are tagged w/o known use are some of the bloods from the buried sea, serpent spine, and secrets of faydwer. Barbarian (97300), Gnome (97334), Halfling (97338), Ogre (97345), and Troll (97367) all are tradeskill tagged, not included in EQTraders database and dont show a use on allakhazam.

There's also slices from a couple different taelosian pies (cherry-96783, cherry mountain-96788, and wildberry-96791) that are tagged for tradeskill but again, aren't included in eqtraders database nor does allakhazam show a use for them (other than as stat food to be consumed).

If this exercise is worthwhile, i can check some of the other items I found. Or if Twistagain is interested, i can send you the full list that I have.