Sunshard Seal focus levels

[Wymp]

I've noticed a few of the Sunshard Seals still produce focus effects capped at 75.

Was wondering if anyone happened to have a complete list to verify the focus levels of the effects on them.


I know Ngreth said they were going to all be level 77 like other Solteris focus, just with a notch lower % so maybe a few just slipped by him, heh.

Curious, since I'd rather not waste time, materials, and dkp to create an already degraded level 75 focus.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Here and there. The Sunshard will be less useful than the Solteris, and some of that will be in the fact that it stop at 75 instead of 77 on top of being a lower effect overall.

Sorry if I said that other before. For now these will be stopping where they stop.

[Wymp]

Ah, I see. Understandable for some.

Just seemed odd that, for example, poison focus got bumped to 77 but not cold.


I saw the range ones and mana pres ones and thought maybe that was intended (/pout) .. but the cold one was what made me curious.

[Dalmoth]

Frankly at this point sony reps have 0 credibility, wait until they are in game and the "upper echelon" gamers have passed on the veto vote before bothering to do anything regarding this.

I'm QUITE irate that SoE has caved to the same set of people calling for nerfs to people beow their content level twice now in a matter of months. I don't see this trend ending.

[Telorea]

Here and there. The Sunshard will be less useful than the Solteris, and some of that will be in the fact that it stop at 75 instead of 77 on top of being a lower effect overall.

Sorry if I said that other before. For now these will be stopping where they stop.

I don't understand. Sunshards are Soltaris raid drops, it was declared by Devs that Soltaris raid-level foci would be capped at 77. Why is there this discrepancy that some Soltaris foci will be capped at 77 and others capped at 75.

It all seems a bit random and bizzare - or is there some even more bizzare underhand plot to artifically discriminate against some raid drops simply because they happen to require tradeskill-effort before they can be used.

It all seems just too wierd.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Ah, I see. Understandable for some.

Just seemed odd that, for example, poison focus got bumped to 77 but not cold.


I saw the range ones and mana pres ones and thought maybe that was intended (/pout) .. but the cold one was what made me curious.

It was a matter of the spells available.

[Bobaten]

I don't understand. Sunshards are Soltaris raid drops, it was declared by Devs that Soltaris raid-level foci would be capped at 77. Why is there this discrepancy that some Soltaris foci will be capped at 77 and others capped at 75.

The type 12 augs have always been level behind on focuses (Bazus have Tacvi focuses, Last Bloods have Anguish focuses). The oft-stated intention for these drops is supplemental gear for apps/returning members/less played members of a guild to catch up in stats with the rest of a guild faster. Think of them as the gear version of backflags.

[Abazagaroth]

The type 12 augs have always been level behind on focuses (Bazus have Tacvi focuses, Last Bloods have Anguish focuses). The oft-stated intention for these drops is supplemental gear for apps/returning members/less played members of a guild to catch up in stats with the rest of a guild faster. Think of them as the gear version of backflags.

No, for the most part, Bazu has anguish foci, Last bloods have DoN foci. Except in those cases where one was used in the subsequent expansion (like mana pres, buff extension, and spell haste).

[Ngreth Thergn]

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Half of it is because I read this at home and not at work. I will make a point of not to respond to you unless I am at work with the actual data.

[Aldier]

It was a matter of the spells available.

By spells do you mean the spells that players had available that benefitted from a focus effect or do you mean the actual focus effect themselves?

[Aldier]

No, for the most part, Bazu has anguish foci, Last bloods have DoN foci. Except in those cases where one was used in the subsequent expansion (like mana pres, buff extension, and spell haste).

This is true for LB and prior augments.

Serpent augs have TSS level focus effects.

Sunshard augs have TBS level focus effects, for the most part and those that are not may be adjusted up.

Faycite augs have SoF level focus effects.

This is a boost to the focus effects on these augments making them even more desireable to casters that are looking to upgrade from LB augs.

[Aaneras]

This is true for LB and prior augments.

Serpent augs have TSS level focus effects.

Sunshard augs have TBS level focus effects, for the most part and those that are not may be adjusted up.

Faycite augs have SoF level focus effects.

This is a boost to the focus effects on these augments making them even more desireable to casters that are looking to upgrade from LB augs.

Crippling the focii on the slot 12 augments impacts class balance and class balance only. For classes that care about focii (casters and priests) the resulting raid augs are drastically devalued. For classes that care about raw stats (AC/HP) the low focii are irrelevant. Putting demiplane level focii on demiplane level drops would seem to be a pretty harmless way of tossing a bone to those raiders when the visible armor in demiplane raids has been obsoleted by group gear. Apparently even that is too much, however.

[Wymp]

By spells do you mean the spells that players had available that benefitted from a focus effect or do you mean the actual focus effect themselves?

I figure it was if there were spells available that would benefit from extending the focus. Hadn't considered that, but it makes sense.

Sorry, big guy .. didn't mean to raise a stink, lol. Was just thinking a few might've slipped through the expansion cracks.

[Sliggoth]

It must be the foci availability, not the spells players have available. Since foci degrade by 5% for each level that the spell is over the foci level, then it matters greatly for a cold nuke of level 80 whether the focus is a 75 or 77 focus. Since there are cold spells over level 75, it must be that the focus effect for 77 for some reason wasnt available.

Sliggoth, druid/ tradeskiller of 7th Hammer

[Maevenniia]

It must be the foci availability, not the spells players have available. Since foci degrade by 5% for each level that the spell is over the foci level, then it matters greatly for a cold nuke of level 80 whether the focus is a 75 or 77 focus. Since there are cold spells over level 75, it must be that the focus effect for 77 for some reason wasnt available.

Sliggoth, druid/ tradeskiller of 7th Hammer

This is correct..Ngreth put the existing focii that were available to him at the time...he is not the Spell Dev, you know...also, it is well known that the Seals deliberately do not receive CURRENT focci, the foccii are always a step or so below what raiders can get from the same level of raid content the seal stones drop from, so that raid loot is always a step above Tradeskilled items, and not every focciii had versions that went up to 77 when these Seals were being created.

Be constructive in your criticisms - Find the Seals with focii that degrade from level 75 and /feedback or request on EQ forums that the Devs bump up the level to 77, so that all Seals will at least match.