Tradeskill Startover?

[whyan]

Would it be possible to restart a tradeskill? My tradeskill is at 200, but there is no way i will be able to make the trophy for less than what? like 100,000p. Conversely it would take about 300p to get to 200 Tradeskill from 0. So it would be easier to drop skill to ZERO, and redo tradeskill - can that be an option? (of course this is referring to Fletching :-), although it seems others might also be similar in a way. What would be really nice would be to enable dropping to lower trophy level and reskilling from there. This isnt cheating, I would have to reskill up from that point - its really just not punishing me for skilling up in the past. (when we are willing to do it all over again :-)

Regarding the slam of go hunt for the ingredients, well i *used to get* at least a few Drake Wing Bones in DoN missions. After POR we lost count over the number of Grounding the Drakes missions we did during Double XP (easier with no trains etc, if in instance zone during craziness of double xp) and got... 1 wing. So no fletching trophy for me (or all my alts), but it would be nice and i am willing to start from zero. Why punish us who did tradeskills before?

Another question/topic is over the GM meaning in EQ (not the mythical being who would stop spammers and trainers :-). No this question is over GrandMaster meaning. If i am in baz and someone asks for a GM tailor, is that now 250 or 350 in EQ? Its really what the player thinks it is. I realize the names were changed in the past, but PoR sorta formalized the names and put Master at 300 (which used to be 200). (Just to add confusion most skills have Master at 100 :-) It seems that to avoid confusion new names should have been adopted, like Guru at 300 and Grand Guru at 350 :-). But it appears now that to the masses, GM is 250, to Tradeskillers GM is 350. Is that others perception? It seems what name is used for what level has lost all meaning, except GM is up there :-).

[Mystic Lioness]

When someone asks for a 'grandmaster' anything, I tell them my skill in that area and my mod, then ask if that was what they were looking for. I also tell them if I have the mastery aa's and that I have salvage 3. That way, they are fully informed and can decide what they want to do.

[Rawckett]

I don't think there is a way to de-level a tradeskill.

As for the GM question. That probably refers to people who had their GM trophies (prior to PoR). They were considered GM tradeskillers.

[Baltazor]

Whyan, tell me again.. slowly this time... why you want to delevel fletching and begin anew. I think I missed some critical element of this request as at 1st glance it makes no sense to me.

[whyan]

It would be easier to get Tradeskill trophy if i started my tradeskill over. To get from 0 to 200 in Fletching is nothing, to get 200 fletching trophy ... well ya cant do it if the required parts dont drop (the part drop rate has to be nerfed, since in about 50 Grounding the Drakes the average was about 1-3 per mission, and now, in about 50 Grounding the Drakes, total was 1 drop.)

If I was to restart the skill at 0, i could have trophy and be back at 200, in less than an hour. We spent all week in those missions and did not get enough drops. So the rational is:
at skill 0: 1 hour, 500p => have 200 skill and new trophy
at skill 200: unknown time (months?), 100,000p => have 200 skill and maybe have new trophy

hopefully that makes it clearer. I like tradeskilling and would like to have trophy, just easier to get it if I started over.

[Centuri]

To the best of my understanding, a "Grandmaster" in any tradeskill is someone that's gone as high as you can go, who's at the top of their skill.

So, when tradeskills went from 250 max to 300 max, the player-given title (since at that point it had nothing to do with in game titles) Grandmaster moved to the 300 level. There was some overlap as we all worked our ways up there but I believe you can now safely say that anyone searching for a GM-tradeskiller is looking for someone 300+. This is reinforced by the DoN "Grandmaster" armor which has trivials of over 300 and is the highest player-made armor.

It's not about the trophies, it's about the skill.

[whyan]

"It's not about the trophies, it's about the skill."

Good quote, thats why:
Skill level - maxed out
Trophy - not obtained
... but willing to re-max my skill with trophy

[Zolina]

Since deleveling fletching isn't possible, you might want to work on your 200 trophy and see how far you can get. I recommend doing Creator missions, you might get lucky and find drake wing bones, or you might get metallic drake scales that you can barter for platinum and build up enough cash to buy the bones. Set up a barter mule offering as much as you can spare for the bones and keep him/her logged in while you're asleep. Check bazaar regularly, sometimes folks will sell things below the going rate. And see if you can discover other ways to build up platinum; farming other tradeskill components is a good way to do this.

[Maddoc-the-Wayfarer]

There is no way to reduce your current value in a given skill without the assistance of a Customer Service Representative, who would likely not be able to change that.

[Verdandi]

If getting an ingredient is *that* difficult I'd suggest a /feedback explaining why you don't think you'll be able to get what you need in a reasonable time frame and asking that either the trophy task call for something else or the drops be improved.

[whyan]

The point of the post was to see if it would be possible to enable a tradeskill restart (or go to lower trophy sikill level.) Know its not in the game, and have enough money to buy Drake Wing Bones, but with 6 needed at only 200 level thats probably about 60k to 120k ... maybe less over time. But, to start from skill 0 to get to 200, its like 300p. I have farmed the drake wing bone, have tons of Crystals now, but no drake wing bones.

It only seems fair to allow players the option to balance their char with new content (by dropping skill and working back up) This isnt a bonus, its requesting a a form of punishment, like a quest to delevel, have the judge say, this piece sucks, you step back 20 skill points :-).

[Verdandi]

Oh it's an interesting idea and there's nothing wrong with suggesting and discussing it. I'm just saying that if a recipe is so difficult that you'd rather have to skill up again, maybe it's too difficult for the trophy task. Getting the kind of quest you seek would probably be a long time coming, but a tweak to a single trophy task or drops for a single ingredient might be much easier, so you can at least get that trophy soon without forking out absurd amounts of money.

[mewkus]

Back before the advent of the New Tannan Mastery, if you skilled any one of your skills over 200, that was it and there was no way you could get any other skill to go over 200. I remember holding off on all my tradeskills in the mid 190s until I could get my tailoring over 200 just so that I wouldn't get stuck with the wrong tradeskill over 200. At the time, it was stated that there was no way short of deleting your character and starting all over that it could be reset.

So, I doubt that there will be something added to drop your skill now just to allow you to do a lower level trophy. The suggestion about using feedback to request a change in the trophy requirement is probably the best method. Other trophy requirements have been modified, so it's not something that's out of the realm of possibility.

[Ngreth Thergn]

I reduced the amount of drake wing parts needed in the fletching tasks

It needs a patch to go live, which is looking like April 19th (ETA only...)

[Zolina]

I think if you get fletching up to 250, you'll only need two drake wing bones. Or you could just listen to the house ogre and wait for next week's patch.