250-300 Skill up Data collection Thread #3

[Ysall]

Just looked at our skill-up rates, and I can see you have had an even worse time than me:

Ysall
No of skill-ups - 17
No of combines - 676
Skill-up rate - 40 combines/skill-up

Celeste
No of skill-ups - 12
No of combines - 655
Skill-up rate- 54 combines/skill-up

[Celeste]

Is 54 combines per skill up reasonable according to the skill up formula? Or has me getting fletching mastery 3 messed it up? There was this other thread in EQLive asking if the mastery AAs are bugged.

http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/...essage.id=7886

I just figured with my stats I should be getting 1 skill up / 20 combines on average according to the formula. But it looks like even you aren't getting 1 skill up / 20 combines, far from that. So is the formula broken or are we just so super unlucky we should enter the unlucky grand powerball 6 lottery?


Celeste

[Ysall]

Is 54 combines per skill up reasonable according to the skill up formula? Or has me getting fletching mastery 3 messed it up? There was this other thread in EQLive asking if the mastery AAs are bugged.

http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/...essage.id=7886

I just figured with my stats I should be getting 1 skill up / 20 combines on average according to the formula. But it looks like even you aren't getting 1 skill up / 20 combines, far from that. So is the formula broken or are we just so super unlucky we should enter the unlucky grand powerball 6 lottery?

Celeste

According to the new formula, and bearing in mind that the closer you get to 300, the harder it is to skill-up, our skill-up rates are about right. As fletching is the hardest tradeskill, the expected rate in the 290's is about 1 skill-up per 40 combines

[Bumkus]

WIS 277 (lol, forgot to equip my +wis item to max WIS, but this shoulda gotten me to max Skillup on successes for tailoring anyway.)

23 Cobalt drake combines - 1 skill up to 249
21 Wyvern hide combines - 3 skill ups to 252 (wow. finally triv'd out basic velious armors.

101 Master's boots and sleeves (maybe 6 failed combines) - 4 skillups to 256.

1 skillup per 18 attempts. Still running slightly more combines per skillup than my calc's would suggest (certainly on Master's stuff), but I've had worse runs.

[Rissenn]

Tailoring. INT 415

DE cultural. Master sleeves. Triv 290. Nightmare Arachnid silk the vital ingrediant. The sleeves that are supposed to have a 5% chance for a skillup no matter what.

To get to:
250-270 On average 30 combines per skillup.
271-275 On average 40 combines per skillup.
276 - 36 Combines
277 - 48 Combines
278 - 77 Combines
279 - 42 combines
280 - 114 Combines
281 - 3 Combines (!!)
282 - 5 Combines (!!)
283 - 36 combines and counting still.
(281+282 came in one run of 8 combines just after last patch)


Fletching:
283 - 9 Combines (EP bows)
284 - 8 Combines (Nightmarewood compond bows.)
285 - 7 Combines (Nightmarewood compond bows.)
286 - 14 Combines and counting.

[Bumkus]

Skill 268 (after +5% mod)
wis 285
tailoring mastery 2

21 master's sleeves, 1 failure - 0 skillups
2 GM combines (Bloodpact gloves and symbol. Both successes ) - 0 skillups

On the upside, this may be the first GM bloodpact item on Fennin Ro

[Millye]

Pottery 250-300, 415 Wisdom, no trophy used
all combines done in PoK
imbued emerald idol to 282, star ruby stein 283 - 300

08 - 251, 02 - 252, 39 - 253, 10 - 254, 27 - 255
15 - 256, 21 - 257, 16 - 258, 12 - 259, 16 - 260
23 - 261, 04 - 262, 20 - 263, 03 - 264, 12 - 265
18 - 266, 04 - 267, 16 - 268, 24 - 269, 35 - 270
14 - 271, 13 - 272, 14 - 273, 12 - 274, 09 - 275
11 - 276, 08 - 277, 22 - 278, 38 - 279, 10 - 280
18 - 281, 02 - 282, 43 - 283, 18 - 284, 49 - 285
17 - 286, 16 - 287, 09 - 288, 02 - 289, 27 - 290
68 - 291, 44 - 292, 95 - 293, 26 - 294, 46 - 295
01 - 296, 41 - 297, 42 - 298, 17 - 299, 49 - 300

Millye, 70 Erudite Cleric on Bristlebane

[Bumkus]

not 250, but it's data....

60 expert smithing combines
285 str, 285 wis
4 failures, 2 skillups to 201 (woot)

seriously though, skillup rate is actually becoming comical. been averaging 1 in 30 in tailoring in 250's. seems only appropriate to start (and end) my post 200 smithing push at 1 in 30.

[crystilla]

Pottery skillups (took 2 full Saturdays). No pottery AA's, just salvage 3 and a 5% geerlok.

Did star ruby steins from 250-300.

390 attempts = 18 skillups (250-268) - 1st Saturday
400 attempts = 17 skillups (269-285) - 2nd Saturday
456 attempts = 15 skillups (286-300) - 2nd Saturday (only broke long enough to get these attempts off alt so 2nd and 3rd tries here were basically done together with no time gaps)
~~~
1,256 attempts for 50 skillups = 24.92 attempts per skillup

[Lanthorny]

560 shissar scales = 560 combines
32 feran bloods = 8 combines
8 murkglider bloods = 2 combines
6 meldstones = 6 combines

wisdom maxed (including all appropriate AA' to raise cap)
trophy used

so 576 combines got me from 255 to 268 ..... didnt take notice of successes/fails - most were successful very few fails -

[Bumkus]

post 9/7/05 patch

25 masters level DoN combines - 3 skillups to 259
2 failed combines
wis-285

[Bumkus]

25 more DoN master's. 0 skillups

[Bumkus]

18 more Don masters arms 0 skillups.

So lets see. I am able to loot 1 to 2 shimmering ukun hides per 2 hour session working the bloodfields zone line at lvl66 solo. just not many ukuns in tight clusters. so assuming, say, 10 shimmering ukun hides per week if I don't do any of them so called "quest" things, or waste any time exploring new content, and further assuming i average 1 skillup in 30 combines, (I know, I know, wishfull thinking, but hey, we gotta dream.) I figure i will get from 259 to 300 in 123 weeks. This is really fun.

Any helpful tailors have any recommendations to ease the skillup path? I am not a tracker so hunting velium hounds and mastodons is not a viable solution.

Have people seen reasonable drop rates for materials in DoDH zones?

[Qaladar Bragollach]

Any helpful tailors have any recommendations to ease the skillup path? I am not a tracker so hunting velium hounds and mastodons is not a viable solution.

Othmir fur then Holgresh fur.

[Bumkus]

2 more baby skillup runs

Wis 290 - 15 DoN masters sleeves, 1 skillup to 260

Wis 300 - 50 DoN masters gloves, 1 skillup to 261

Have done approx 20 GM combines for no skillups yet.

Will keep posting. Hoping to see improvement as I continue to pump aa's into stats. (My theory is that Tailoring has been moved to difficulty 4, after the introduction of DoN augs and armor.)