250-300 Skill up Data collection Thread #3

[Voltai Ausra]

Sickles

Smithing
Str 425
Geerlok hammer
SM3
147 combines took me from 250 to 257
21 Failures


PoisonMaking
Geerlok, PM3
340 Dex
303 Wis
294 to 295
93 combines
7 failures

[Sophi]

Poison Making:
Level 20, Geerlok used.
236 DEX.

Run 1: 100 combines.
288 - 291 (4 skillups, fairly evenly distributed).

Run 2: 100 combines.
292 - 293
Went 75-80 combines without a skillup, then both came within 3 combines of each other. The second skillup was on a failure.

All combines were for making Scioriae Bite.

[Ilona]

Ilona's tailoring

Since the change to skillup patch, I've done the following:

Tailoring

starting at 205, it took the following number of combines to
206 1
207 4
208 13
209 2
210 1
211 6
212 8
213 6
214 16
215 5
216 27
217 4
218 9
219 4
220 3
221 2
222 9 (int increased to 300 after here)
223 28
224 22
225 1
226 7
227 4
228 44
229 41
230 3 (int increased to 315 and tailoring mastery 1 aquired after the first combine here)
231 10
232 9
233 27
234 1
235 10
236 39
237 5
238 1
239 4
240 21 (may be some missing here, as I was making armour for a friend to wear and wasn't very organised)
241 1
242 6
243 49
244 37 (int increased to 320 after 28th combine, to 325 after 30th combine)
245 25
246 3
247 4
248 12
249 14
250 11
251 3
252 25 (last 3 were GM aug attempts, FFS)
253 14 (first 3 were GM aug attempts, SSF)
254 18
255 17
256 17
257 18
258 6
259 4
260 1
261 22
262 1
263 19
264 30 (combines 5 and 6 were one fail and one success at GM leg augs respectively)
265 1
266 12
267 2
268 8
269 40
270 31 and counting (31st combine was success at GM leg aug)

I was doing expert's erudite sleeves to 212 (kicking myself now for forgetting ethereal swatches!!), then did some legs/robe combines (triv 222), currently doing expert's chest/legs symbol combines (triv 222) as I get the ingredients. Ran out of drachnid swatches halfway through 216, then did robes of inverse til 222. 9 robes of the ethereal to skill 223, still deciding what to do next as I didn't have many ethereal scribed swatches.

My int until 223 was 295, from 223 was 300.

From 223 I did a stack of rockhopper and three stacks of wyvern masks.

Will update more as I progress.
- Ilona, now of Quellious server

PS When my druid did tailoring, she averaged about 24. 2 attempts per skillup between 200 and 250, but failed on a lot more combines (solstice robes and velious tailoring mostly, with some rockhopper).

PPS at 236 skill I went 2/4 on Master's legging symbols of growth... luckily I managed to salvage the water on one of the fails! CDD is a pain to get!

[Ilona]

Ilona's smithing

Since the change to skillup patch, I've done the following:
Smithing (Sickles, as erudite cultural is a pain to get ingredients for; F=fail, S=success)

223 don't have full numbers
224 FFFFFFFF
225 FSFFFFF
226 FFFFFSS
227 FFSFSFFFFF
228 FFF (int increased to 315 here) FSFSFFFFSSSFFFS
229 FFFFSSSSFF
230 FSFSFFFFSF
231 SFF
232 SSFSFSFFS
233 SFFFFFSFSFSSSSSFSFSFSFFFSSFSS
234 FFFSSFFSFSSFFFSSSFFSSSFS
235 SS
236 SFS and still going

Will update more as I progress.
- Ilona, now of Quellious server

[Ilona]

Deandra's smithing

Since the change to skillup patch, I've done the following:

BD cultural (Deandra is human, lvl 65, 280 wis)
250 SSS (plus I think three DoN attempts before this, one of which failed. wasn't counting then, though!)
251 SSFFFF
252 SSFS
253 SFSSSSFSFS
254 FSSSSSS (then switch to sickles) FSSSFFFSSSFFSSSSSFFSSFSFSFSSSSSFSSFFFSSFFSSSFSSFFS SSFSSF
255 (tae ew) SSSS (sickles) SSSSFSFFSSF
256 SSFSFSFSSFSSFSS
257 SFFSSFSSSFFSSSS
258 SSSSSFSFFFSSSSSSFSSSFSSSSSSSSFSSSF
259 FSFSFSSSFSFFSFSSSSFSSSSSSSSSSSS
260 SSFSSFSSSSSF
261 SSSSSSSSFFSFSFSFFSFSSFFSSSS
262 FSFSFS
263 FSSSSSSSSFSSS
264 SFSSSSSS
265 FFFSSFSFSSSSSSSFF
266 SFSSFSSSSSFSSSSSFSSSSFSSS
267 SSSSSFFFSSSSSF
268 SSS
269 SSSSFFSSSSSS
270 SSSSSSSSFSSSSSFSS
271 SSSSFSSSSSSFSSSSFFSSSSFSSFSSSSSSSSSSSSSSFSFSSFSFSF SSSSSSFSSSSFSSSSSSSS
272 FSFSFFSSS
273 SSSSSS
274 SSSSSSFFFSSSFSSSSSFSSSFSFSSSSSSSFSSSSSSFSSFSSSSSSS S
275 SSFSS
276 SF (SSS) SSSFSSSSSSSSSSFSFSSSSSS (those in brackets were Muramite sheets, 282 trivial)
277 SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
278 SSSSSSSSSSFSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
279 SSSSSSSSFS
280 SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSFSSSSSSF (change to BD cultural) SSSFSSSSSSSSS
281 SSS (GM bp combine) S (sickles again) SSSSSSSS
282 SSSSSSSSSS
283 SSFSSSS
284 SSSSS
285 SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
286 SS
287 SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
288 FSSSS SSSSF SSSSS SSSSS SSSSS SSSSS FSSSS SSFSS SSS(heraldic)SS SSSSS SSSFS (GM plate bp)F
289 (GM plate bp)F (BD cultural)S
290 F

Will update more as I progress.
- Ilona, now of Quellious server

[Macnair]

Gem studded chains, wisdom 390, geerlok equipped.

298 - 7 combines - no failures - ding 299
299 - 54 combines - 4 failures - ding 300

[Brodybeard]

Originally Posted by Brodybeard 05-11-2005
A gnomish-sized bit of data:

My gnome (255 Intelligance) did 100 Molten Metal Bow Cam (282 trivial) combinations this past weekend and went from 258 to 261 tinkering.

Another 100 Molten Metal Bow Cam combinations this past weekend yielded a very pleasing 10 skill-ups to 273 (he had previously gotten two skill-ups to 263 from six Full Capacity Gnomish Vanishing Device combinations).

[Wyvernwill]

300 combines brought me from 262 to 286 smithing over this last week.

[mewkus]

Sob... 160 combines got me from 279 smithing right back to 279 smithing. Str 420, Int 370. Spent two days imbueing and subcombining for them. If this weekend is as fruitful as last weekend was, it'll rank right up there with the two full weekends (4 days x 14 hours/day) I wasted trying to get an anchor from the Ghoul in SRo.

[Oona Wynterbreeze]

Sob... 160 combines got me from 279 smithing right back to 279 smithing. Str 420, Int 370. Spent two days imbueing and subcombining for them. If this weekend is as fruitful as last weekend was, it'll rank right up there with the two full weekends (4 days x 14 hours/day) I wasted trying to get an anchor from the Ghoul in SRo.

I feel your pain, though I don't currently have to deal with all the subcombines, gathering the scale ore, black sapphires, blue diamonds, polished quartz and geodes for my JC is still a royal pain. I updated one of my previous posts here... I'm sitting at 244 combines and counting stuck at 295 skill.

[Wyvernwill]

Just hit 290 smithing off of 140 combines, went from 286-290.

Things to note: 289 to 290 cost me 82 combines. I have 31 combines in 290 with no gain.

Was a bit painful, more like felt like running into a brick wall, but I guess I spend tonight again, trying to push more skill out. Hopefully it works out.

[Qaladar Bragollach]

Not sure why my data was not reposted, but here's some new (updated data).

Complete 250-300 post-patch JC run... int constant at 400, trophy equipped. All combines were within the bracket for 95% success rate so not a factor.

Combines per skillup
62
29
10
6
3
18
10
57
8
19
4
68
12
5
10
39
8
4
3
1
31
3
4
74
2
1
6
18
63
18
6
24
20
3
72
9
51
9
52
25
49
102
2
32
46
142 (ouch... making gem studded chains here this point cost 32k!)
32
15
40
9

Total combines 1336, 50 skillups, 26.72 combines per skillup. Sounds about right considering my int is not quite high enough to automatically make pass 1 even on a success.

[Oona Wynterbreeze]

Looking at your combines I just wanna curl up in a corner and die... lol. In the last 821 combines that got you 22 points to 300, I've done 828 combines getting me all of 5 points from 290 to 295. My combines are listed here with my current combines trying for 296 listed at the top.

So is this just bad luck for me or am I needing to just stop and come to the realization that I'm just not gonna make it to 300 with a 255 INT? Do I just need to say the hell with it and stop doing combines until I get some levels beyond 52 and try again when the cap on my INT gets raised?

[Justmenow]

You will get to 300 eventually if you keep at it. It will be costly though judging by your numbers.

Looking at the posts made by several level 70 people with very high wis/int or str (350+) who see no real problem with the number of combines per skill-up I get the feeling that the new formula favors the level 65+ people more than the sub 65 people.

Maybe that some people can compare the old formula and new formula combines/skill-up ratio for people who only got 255 in wis/int/str and report about it in a different thread since this one was to be used for number crunching.

[Ngreth Thergn]

Well...

with 255 int, doing a 300 triv item

Ajusted Skill = 295
Success chance = 95%
Chance of skill up on Success: 1.74%, on failure: 0.87%, overall 1.7%

With 400 Int:

Ajusted Skill = 295
Success chance = 95%
Chance of skill up on Success: 2.79%, on failure: 1.4%, overall 2.72%

just a 1% difference per roll