Problems Skilling Up

[Bolas]

Before it used to take about 30 combines to get a skill up on average. That meant that you'd sometimes get one in 5 combines, sometimes one in 60 combines. People are still seeing the one skill up in 60 combines, what's missing is the one skill up in 5 combines.

When can we have the code for min chance to skill up when using very rare ingredients?

-Bolas

[greebmushroome]

this is something i've noticed, too... no more "quick" skillups, which would do a LOT to raise the average.

not conclusive by any means, but in probably 500 non-trivial, 250+ skill combines, no skill-ups coming 1-10 combines after another.

[KyrosKrane]

I had a rather disturbing experience yesterday. In the past, each time I made a new toon, I would get them to skill up tailoring on no-fail Silk Swatches or Silk Threads. These were usually mules, so their starting wis/int wasn't exceptional; usually around 70-80. My experience was fairly consistent. I would get one skillup every 3-4 combines up until the trivial of 15.

Yesterday, I tried the same thing with my baby rogue. 28 silk swatch combines with a WIS of 75 yielded just one skillup. This is hardly conclusive, but it is starkly different from my previous experience. Per the formula we currently have, I should have about a 20% chance to skill up on each combine. A single skillup in 28 combines is ... odd.

I've also noticed a distinctly slower skillup rate for melee and combat skills, all of which are under 100 and most of which are under 50. However, I have no real way to compare this to my prior experience, so this could be normal and I have a faulty memory.

If I have some time, I think I'll try to skill up brewing with my baby rogue. I want to see if I still get this odd skillup rate over the range of 1-100.

[wayshaper]

i think someone needs to take a look at the code again, while not exactly tradeSKILL , was assisting my brother last night, and he decided he needed to get weapon skills up and defensive skill up, log on cleric, we find a mob, i buff him with symbol only to give him more hp, cleric roots mob, mob beats on bro for awhile and i do mean a long while, bout 2 hours(we are very persistant and very much consider skills important, learned that lesson long ago), when mob got low, bro backs off, mob regens, he does bind wounds, got roughly 8 (40 to 48)points in defensive skill, and 3 points in bind wounds(bout 10 stacks of bandages), lv 15 vah shir bard, avg stats, not very twinked (vah shir jman armor w/o augs)

[Zolexa]

I hardily agree that they still need to reverify the code. I have a new baby bard alt. Was leveling her some the other day. She's level 12, and hasnt had 1 single 1hs skill up since the tutorial. Her skill is still 8.

Also, with AFK singing skill ups, I left her for over 6 hours when I went to sleep. She only went from 12-63 (max would be 65 for her level).

Even alchohol tolerance, which normally gave 1 skill up per ale until 30+, after about 10 drinks yeilded only ONE skill point.

[gildana]

Still problems

I went for 250 to 300 Poisonmaking with a pretty straight average over that run of 1 skillup per 20 combines.

I just went through 80 combines of Blacksmithing to try to get from 200-201 with no skillups.

I have Fletching at 200, Poisonmaking at 300 (Doesn't count). No Tanaan Mastery AAs.

Oh... Wunshi, DoN 450 str/dex, 320 wisdom.

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=270960

[Rorlan]

Just another time sink.. .


Thanks SoE.. why not leave it the way it has been for 6years

[Sukrasisx]

I went for 250 to 300 Poisonmaking with a pretty straight average over that run of 1 skillup per 20 combines.

I just went through 80 combines of Blacksmithing to try to get from 200-201 with no skillups.

I have Fletching at 200, Poisonmaking at 300 (Doesn't count). No Tanaan Mastery AAs.

You sort of implied it by pointing out that Poisonmaking doesn't count, but I'll ask just to be sure: none of your other tradeskills have snuck past 200?

[gildana]

Nope.

Just 3x checked. And why I included my magelo link.

[Telorea]

I don't know if it was just bad luck on the RNG, but I had an odd experience when I was doing a batch of tailoring skilling recently, going from 220 to 224.

I was using a recipe that had a trivial of 231, which meant that when my geerlok was equiped the recipe was green. I did a whole bunch of combines and didn't get a single skill up. Then on a hunch I unequiped the geerlok and then got 4 skill ups in the last 8 or 9 combines I had left in the batch.

I didn't get any "You can no longer advance your skill" messages (at least I don't think I did) but I suspect that the new skill-up formulae may penalise you if you are skilling up on recipes that are trivial at your current(modified) skill.

[Cloud]

another 350 fletching combines and 2 skill ups (275) (276)

please soe bring back old system

[Yuliya]

Numbers?.. I gots numbers.

As I hadn't seen this thread, I have already posted a couple in fletching.

Here is my last post. I didn't know others were having problems.

Subject:Frustration is setting in.

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A couple posts up, the guy said he did 540 combines and went from 250 to 300.

I am currently over 2000 combines to get from 268 to 293. I am getting either 1 or 2 skillups per 200 combines. I have 4 characters who are full (24 10 slot satchels worth) of arrows.

I am approaching 20k arrows on hand and am succeeding sometimes as much as 195 times out of 200.

As stated above, my wis is always 405 without stat buffs. Do buffs such as kei or claivoyance help? Someone gimme an idea.. I'm running out of room

[Yuliya]

Trophy?

After reading a few other threads... I wonder..

Anyone think that maybe trophies are causing less skill ups? My trophy in fletching gives me like 307 or 308 skill which is still well below the 335 trivial on Mithril Champion Arrows but it's one of the factors I have seen a few people mention.

I wonder if someone messed with the wood-elf cultural fletching skill up tables maybe? Whatever it is, I'm averaging about 200 combines per skill up now. My finger is sore.... someone.. please.. help.....

[Oona Wynterbreeze]

After reading a few other threads... I wonder..
Anyone think that maybe trophies are causing less skill ups?

I quit using my JC trophy when people started voicing their suspicions...
I shudder at what I'd have if that's the case and I was still using it... 2 skill-ups in 494 combines...

[Wyvernwill]

As much as I know that less fails = more skill gains, I have never used a trophy or gearlok while skilling and I still have yet to have too abnormal of problems, but then again, I haven't done all that much smithing or tailoring since the patch, but have gained two skill in 9 attempts of white gold inlays.