Problems Skilling Up

[Tanker]

Figured I'd post here too, explaining a bit about the bug.

First off, if you're over 150 in a Tradeskill, you won't notice the bug, as the bugged code isn't being called... you're now using the new formula (which is working, going from your posts).

The bug makes it very difficult to skillup at low levels in EVERY skill. Tradeskills when your skill is below 150 is still using the original skillup formula, as is every other skill (1hbash, etc.) for the whole path (1-300). Until this is fixed, if you start a new toon, or finally decide to get your Piercing (or Swimming, etc) skill up, you will find it very difficult to skill up (though not impossible).

The bug resulted from code cleanup that occurred at the same time as the new Tradeskill skillup formula, but is not a result of the new formula. The new formula seems to be working correctly. I do not know when a fix for the bug above will go Live.

Hope this clears things up.

[Sorgortath]

Spell Research Combines

Well I'm surprised it's working below 200. I did 40 practice runes at 171-173 skill with intelligence of 254 and 2 skill ups. Practice research is generally fairly easy (at low skils there is a skill up almost every attempt), and before patch I was getting 1 skillup per 5 attempts or so - what I would expect. I put the probability through a binomial calculator and it came up with 5% probability of doing as badly as that and that on the old formula -so it could have been just unlucky. Still with the new formula should have been easier than this at around 170. Not absolutely convinced it wasn't just bad luck but when I come away wondering if there was a bug in the implementation and I discover there was indeed one I begin to wonder.

[Bolas]

Maybe it's just me.. but could we have the old skill up formula back please?

-Bolas

[Jherikho]

To be honest, I'm a little reluctant to post this as it is second-hand knowledge. So take it with as many blocks of salt as you deem appropriate.

Last night, an /ooc was posted asking if anyone else was having trouble with tradeskill skill-ups. The poster then said that he had a smithing skill of 170 and was attempting combines with a "trivial" of 188. He said that out of 62 attempts, he was successful 60 times and got ZERO skill-ups. So perhaps the "bugged" code doesn't just apply to the low end recipes after all.

Jherikho

[Cloud]

Maybe just an extreme run of bad luck but i went from 250-270 getting 1 skill up every 30 avg combines then when i hit 270 it seems to have changed maybe a bug level or something seeing how lowere levels are bugged. 200 combines for 1 skill up :/ with 350 dex in fletching

[KB1]

Skill up bug does not seem to affect you unless very low in the skill to begin with. Like doing 100 combines in alchemy abysmal sea task and getting 2 skill ups, 0-2, and them me getting a skill up on every swig of summoned ale from 173 to 200. Regardless they just reset Namless so maybe it was for a fix.

[clutch94]

Brewing skillup problem

Just my experience skilling up brewing since the patch. Making Kaladim Constitutionals, 375 Wisdom, with Geerlok.

266-276: 400 combines (40 attempts / skillup)
277-285: 600 combines (67 attempts / skillup) ending with a run of 200 attempts without a skillup which made me quit

Something I noticed is that almost every attempt was a success, I would say on the order of 5% failure rate. Sorry I don't have more precise data, needless to say I was a bit dissappointed.

[KB1]

Well they didn't reset Nameless..Oh well. I did 3 JC combines went from 291 to 294.

[Nolrog]

Last night, an /ooc was posted asking if anyone else was having trouble with tradeskill skill-ups. The poster then said that he had a smithing skill of 170 and was attempting combines with a "trivial" of 188. He said that out of 62 attempts, he was successful 60 times and got ZERO skill-ups. So perhaps the "bugged" code doesn't just apply to the low end recipes after all.

Jherikho

Zero skill ups in 60 attempts is not unusual, not at all. I've gone over 100 combines numerous times (granted, with the old forumla, however, I'd expect that the RNG is still subject to runs, just like before.) On the other hand, 60 successes in 62 combines is actually very very good.

[Ysall]

Tanker...come back! You forgot to tell us the new formula!!

[Tanker]

I didn't forget... I gotta save something for Fan Faire

As with the old formula, I do want to give some people a chance to figure it out on their own. 2 months seems like a good enough time period for that.

Some hints, maybe?

Hmm, ok, first off, we didn't touch Part 1 of the skillup check. The changes were only made to Part 2 (If you don't know what I mean, check around on this site).

Maybe another hint later.

[Catha]

Oh, goodness, I am soooooo relieved. I was thinking that Murphy had set up housekeeping in my pooter forever.

[Karim]

I dont want to know the formulae it gives me head-aches. Just a quick answer from Tanker on what is the average number of combines we should have to do to get a skill up in ...say tailoring if stats are maxed and you are in the 250-299 zone.

-Karim

[rasi]

Did 80 combines on my enchanter for juwelcraft . His skill is at 181 and he was doing gold bars+ peridots (trivials at 186).... NO skill-ups. Only bugged below 150? don t believe 1 word of it.

rasi

Can we have the old formula back ?

[Bobaten]

You realize of course, that 4 stacks of combines with no skill ups isn't out of place at 180 skill under the old formula, right? Heck, my worst run was 9 stacks.