Cost of Corking Device?

I don't know much about tinkering or the components.... but I need 2 corking devices at least.

1 for an attempt at trophy, and 1 for actually brewing... I definately wont be able to afford more for further attempts at a trophy for quite some time if I fail.

Looking at the ingredients the only expensive thing I saw was the blue diamond, which I've found for under 500pp on my server.

Is there a reason these are so scarce and expensive?

Maybe one of the sprokets costs a few K?

The only one for sell in bazaar was 6k... which is just out of the question for me.

I put this in general because its brewing and tinkering related, sorry if it is in the wrong section.

[Yalenya]

Re: Cost of Corking Device?

The tinkering ingredients don't cost that much, it is finding a tinkerer with the necessary skill level which adds up.

I decided to take a chance with getting my corking devices. Our guild tinkerer was at 168 with the 2% tinkering tool when I asked him to attempt one for me. I 3 blue diamonds, 3 branches of sylvan oak, and bought 3 tries of each of the tinkering ingredients, (for under 100pp I believe). He went 2/2 for me, and since I only needed 2 I let him keep the rest of the ingredients.

I could of had it sooner, I have been at 250 brewer for about 5 months, but I didn't feel like paying the bazaar prices to get a corking device. It actually worked out better this way for me. He has a pet chanter and made my vial for the trophy and was there with me when I succeeded on my first try.

I have jokingly referred to him as my good luck gnomie.

Yalenya

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Congrats on your Trophy .

Thanks also for the validation, so really we're talking sub 1000pp cost....

Sounds like its time to make a Gnome twink.

It just seems sooo wrong that I am selling WU's way under cost to skill-up, and Tinkers can sell at 6x cost because they are more rare.

/sigh

[Rebly]

I had been looking for one of these forever (in bazaar, asking friends with tinkering friends, etc.) I finally found one in bazaar for 2k. I was willing to pay up to 2.5k so I was happy with the price.
If you can't afford one, maybe talk to a few tinkerers and see if yu can barter your time for a reduced price (IE: doing some low trivial blacksmithing combines etc....everyone hates grunt work) or see if they need any high level combines in another tradeskill you are good at. I've only met 1 other tradeskiller who refused to consider bartering time along with plat when I couldn't afford his price. Since then he has gotten no business from me =)

[Zallarenya]

Yes, the main monetary cost of a corking device is the blue diamond. I actually prefer when people pay me with a blue diamond as part of the deal, and I price my corking devices higher for cash-only to get people to pay BD + pp. (I price these at 1500pp cash or blue diamond + 500pp, and pray I don't fail too many.) The blue diamond goes into the next person's attempt at a device, and any profit goes into working on skill increases.

The rest of the cost is justified by time and skill. Until VERY recently, Cogs were only available in Iceclad Ocean (now they're also available in PoK). The device also requires a foraged piece - Gnomes can't forage. Tinkering now has two routes for skilling up to corking device range - quick and very expensive as in the old days, or very slow and cheap collecting unstackable loot items.

Corking devices have come down in price a bit, which reflects the new tinkers who skill up with Luclin and PoP recipes, who didn't have to spend hundreds of thousands of plat to skill up.

[Yalenya]

Re: ...

Congrats on your Trophy .

Thanks also for the validation, so really we're talking sub 1000pp cost....

Sounds like its time to make a Gnome twink.

It just seems sooo wrong that I am selling WU's way under cost to skill-up, and Tinkers can sell at 6x cost because they are more rare.

/sigh

You will easily spend more than 6k in getting a gnome twinked to the level that he/she can make one of these. The reason tinkerers can sell them for that much is due to the rarity of finding a tinkerer, not because of the cost of the one attempt.

[Meirril]

Older server means more skilled gnomes I guess. I picked one of these up from a gnome that was skilling up in the Bazaar. Her shout was "50pp, send me a tell quick or it goes to the vendor". I bought 4 diffrent gearlocks from her that day. After hearing 2k for one of these I'm certainly alot more thankful that I was in the right place at the right time (and could afford the 300pp I paid.)

So if you feel bad about selling Wu's at under cost just to sell something, well...

[Yalenya]

Meirril, I would say you are talking about the brewing geerlok, which is not the same thing as the corking device that we are discussing here. Even though the geerloks have a higher trivial value iirc.

Yalenya
Grandmaster Brewer
Level 57 Templar
Legacy of Darkness
Cazic Thule Server

Don't mind derailing since my question was answered .

Geerloks are cheap as heck on Brell.

I bought my Brewing one for 30pp.

Then a few days later I saw Jewlcrafting, Fletching, and Pottery at 9pp each respectively, so I got all 3... still have 0 in those three skills, but why not.

I am not sure if Happyshop was having an off day or something, because he hasn't repeated that pricing fiasco. Also bought my collapsable spit/sewing kit off him.

Still waiting for a cheap Tailoring one, and hammers go for 100pp.

Just an FYI.

[Flabbo McFattyfatfat]

Snagged a corking device (not a geerlok brewing devie) for 1500 in bazaar. With blue diamond prices falling, these may go even lower.

Ok,

I am not sure I should even post this, because it may upset gnomes everywhere.

Here is how I got my corking device.

I decided to gather ingredients to make 4, figuring maybe 1 would fail, and I could try my trophy 2 times, and use 1 to brew with.

I had 3k to my name.

So I bought branches in bazaar, being unable to forage.. but they were very cheap, 3-4pp each.

Then I went to PoK and got the grease, sprocket, gear, and cogs... those were a bit more than expected, 10pp each or so.

For a week I checked blue diamond prices in bazaar, and they were always 600pp plus. I couldn't afford that, and a donation for the combine...

So I asked auction channel, buying blue diamonds 500pp each... and got quick responses.

I now had a nice neat 10 slot bag with everything needed to make them, all organised.

Then I did a who all gnome 55 65.... that wasn't as many names as you'd think on brell.

I then asked each and every gnome that was in a non fighting zone (pok, pot, nexus, bazaar) if they tinkered and had a few minutes.

After going through half the gnomes on the server without 1 decent tinker, (suprisingly none were rude or seemed bothered by my polite inquiries)... I finally found one that would do it.

Hand him the bag, 4 quick combines, 4 successes, gave him 500pp for his time. He seemed happy.

So basically I now have 4 corking devices, and spent just under 3k.

Checking bazaar today, and every day during this, the cheapest 1 corking device ever was selling for was 4k pp.

No clue if anyone ever bought one at that price, but there are 3 different people selling at that price.

It will be a while before I can afford a seal, but for that I plan on getting pottery and jewelcraft high enough to make my own.

In case the kind gnome is reading this, rest assured that none of those 4 will make the market... if by any chance I succeed in under 3 tries on my trophy, the others will go to the guild, and not to bazaar.

[Zallarenya]

Ok,

I am not sure I should even post this, because it may upset gnomes everywhere.
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Hand him the bag, 4 quick combines, 4 successes, gave him 500pp for his time. He seemed happy.

Why would that upset Gnomes? Pricing on these things is mainly time to collect components plus cost of blue diamonds. My price of a blue diamond + 500pp covers my time and most of a blue diamond if I fail a combine. Most folks will be a little higher to offset failures a little more and try to get a touch more of cash spent increasing skill back.

In your scenario, the tinker was at no risk of losing blue diamonds since they were yours, and you had done the leg work of collecting the components. Most tradeskillers, I think, welcome orders like this instead of the usual, "I hear you can make something I think I might like", then the tradeskiller trying to figure out exactly what the customer wants, only to have him then try to haggle down to less than cost of materials to make it

[Grozza]

Just as a point of reference, I spent 4k the other day and managed to skill up from 138 to 163. On the bright side, I went 2 for 2 on corking devices at 163.

[FeroceFV]

I don't understand the pricing, either. Honestly, Blue diamonds aren't THAT pricey anymore, and if you ever do the coldain ring quests, you can just let out the occasional shout for a branch of sylvan oak. Most foragers don't have much use for them. The tinkering supplies are fairly cheap, too. If you collect the items, and provide some kind of nice goodies for the tinkerer, I think any fee charged would be purely nominal.

[PinyonTreedotter]

I can't sell the corking devices for 1kpp on my server (Luclin). I made a few when they would still give me skill checks, so I paid more for the blue diamonds than I could now. I stopped making them when they became trivial. They are always on my trader and I get zero business -- even when I'm the only trader selling it on the server. (Right now, the other two traders are asking 994 and 990 each.)

Delfontes, that's exactly the way to get tradeskilling done cheaply. Most tradeskillers I know would be happy to do the combines when it just requires hitting the combine button -- particularly if a skill check is involved. I made a set of visible Stormreaper boned armor for someone who came to me with all the subcombines made, with the except of the cultural smithing and final tailoring combine. While it did involve being in Rivervale for the smithing, we did about about a dozen combines in a very short time. She was happy I got over 50% success and gave a reasonable amount of cash in appreciation.