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  • Rough calculation on tradeskill trivial for Trophies

    I was just wondering...

    If people who have made a trophy would post the following:

    1. Number of attempts
    2. Skill at each attempt
    3. Any modifiers at each attempt (geerlok, etc)

    we could start to collect enough data to get a rough idea of the approximate trivial for them. This would help other people determine likelihood of making a trophy at various skill levels.

    We can use the formula:

    success = skill - 0.75 * trivial + 51.5

    We can exclude all failures in making the earlier steps and only consider the final combine. I'll give my data.

    2 attempts, skill 250, no geerlok. One success (jewelry).
    3 attempts, skill 244, geerlok. One success (fletching).
    1 attempt, skill 248, geerlok. Success (brewing).

    Very rough calculation with just my data -- 50 percent success at max skill of 254. This yields a very rough trivial of 340.

    Okay, I'm now going to list the attempts at or near the max of 252. I'll use all attempts at 240+ with geerlok or 248 without...

    Attempts: 64
    Success: 27

    This is a success rate so far of about 42 percent, which adjusts the trivial up to about 346.

    Using the data we have so far, I'm guessing success rates for the trophy will be roughly 40-50 percent at max, minus one percent for every point under max. For instance, at 220 with a geerlok, success will be 20-30 percent.

  • #2
    Could be mistaken, but I thought VI had declared max skill w/modifiers to be 252.

    Anyway...1 attempt at skill 234 + geerlok = Grandmaster's Corker.
    Sir Carmaris Stoneheart
    Dwarven Lord Crusader
    Beezle Bug
    High Elf Templar
    Bertoxxulous
    Debeo Amicitia

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    • #3
      1 Attempt, skill 241 w/Geerlok. Success with Baking Spoon

      Elder Talipes Vagari - 63 Hierophant
      Grand Master Baker w/GrandMaster's Baking Spoon
      Veeshan

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      • #4
        Skill was at 236, used Geerlock with Wisdom at 255+ when attempted. Success on first attempt.
        Sadara Spiritslammer
        <Scent of an Ogre>
        Brell Serilis
        My Profile

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        • #5
          Skill 229 w/ Geerlok no spoon

          Skill 242 w/ Geerlok SPOON!
          Ausversucht's stuff

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          • #6
            Brewing - 250+ Geerlok 1/1
            Jewelcrafting - 250+ Geerlok 1/1
            Smithing - 231+Geerlok 0/1

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            • #7
              Well, if we are only counting the final combine,


              1/1 , Skill 238 + geerlok.


              (Now, if you want to count the time I lost my first seal in the pottery Wheel.....)


              -Lilosh
              Venerable Noishpa Taltos , Planar Druid, Educated Halfling, and GM Baker.
              President and Founder of the Loudmouthed Sarcastic Halflings Society
              Also, Smalltim

              So take the fact of having a dirty mind as proof that you are world-savvy; it's not a flaw, it's an asset, if nothing else, it's a defense - Sanna

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              • #8
                I hate you all.

                I don't know where I was in my first 3 fails, all >235, most >240.

                Buy my last 2 failures were both at 250 with Geerlok, and failed.

                Jewelcrafting Trophy attemps to date: 5
                Jewelcrafting Trophy successes: 0


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                • #9
                  don't feel too bad, all 6 attempts on mine were at skill 250 without geerlok finally made it on the 6th try

                  What's hiding under Maeve's robe

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                  • #10
                    1/2 at 250+Geerlock for my brewing trophy.
                    Put on int gear, so 255int each time, because I'm superstitious.
                    Altanis Blazewielder
                    62 Arch Mage
                    Povar-Tarew Alliance

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                    • #11
                      Baking: 1/1 at 235 skill
                      Brewing: 1/7 all at 250 skill
                      Jewelry: 1/2 at 250 skill
                      Pottery 1/1 at 248 skill

                      All were made/attempted without Geerlok, max WIS.

                      Brewing hated me

                      Baking 300, Brewing 300, Fletching 300, Jewelcraft 300, Pottery 300, Smithing 300, Tailoring 285

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                      • #12
                        Grandmaster Smithing Hammer

                        226 w/Geerlok 0/2
                        233 w/Geerlok 1/1

                        Arghargh Grumble, Darkblood
                        57 Ogre Shaman of Rallos Zek
                        Alchemy – 165
                        Baking – 200
                        Brewing - 200
                        Fishing - 200
                        Fletching – 200
                        Jewelcraft –200
                        Potting - 200
                        Grandmaster Smith - 250
                        Tailoring – 159

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                        • #13
                          trophy

                          For my druid, it took me 2 combines at skill 238 without geerlock, wis 260 for tailoring trophy

                          For my cleric, it took me 1 combine at skill 250 with geerlock, wis 255 for my pottery trophy

                          For chanter, it took me 1 combine at skill 250, no geerlock, int 255 for JC trophy

                          For monk, it took me 1 combine at skill 250, no geerlock, wis 177, for brewing trophy

                          Eeirey Spiritkeeper
                          Moonlite Knights
                          Quellious Server

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                          • #14
                            One attempt at 238 plus Geerlok. Successfully made tailoring trophy.

                            Thicket
                            Thicket Tundrabog
                            Heroes Unlimited
                            Povar

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                            • #15
                              1/1, fletching, skill 235 + geerlok
                              Magrath Morrigu

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