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    Cheaters and the recent up swell of concern (12-8-03)
    Over the last few days there has been a growing community concern about possible cheating, exploiting and platinum duplication. Rumors and speculation have begun to run rampant, and I've received a lot of concerned email on the topic.

    First of all, I want to thank you for your concern. The fact that you worry about this stuff as much as we do makes me feel good about the community that I work for. I want to especially thank those that have sent in detailed information about what they thought might be dupe or exploit situations. That information has been very helpful.

    With your help, we have been able to discover and eliminate some unusual ways of cheating. Obviously I can't go into detail about exactly how this cheating was done. I can tell you that several of our programmers and designers took lengthy breaks from working on their current tasks to define, investigate and smash those exploits. Most of these methods for cheating have been removed. The few that remain will be fixed shortly. We will be watching, and anyone using them will be banned.

    At the same time, our Customer Service folks have been diligently tracking down the cheaters. We have banned accounts and deleted characters in the hundreds. It's never a good thing to be forced to remove so many accounts, and we're not happy that such cheating was possible. We are pleased, however, to let you know that we are confident that we have located the majority of those that exploited the game and have removed their characters or accounts.

    Obviously we won't be able to prevent all of the possible ways to cheat. The folks that insist on trying to cheat have proven to be persistent and clever (and here is where I wonder why they don't apply that energy and skill to something beneficial...). We need your help to locate these issues. The multitude of eyes and ears of our players is always the best source of information for us. If you ever suspect that you have discovered something that seems like an exploit, please send that information to us through the Developer's Corner AND through /bug. Please don't assume we have heard the information already. We'd rather have ten reports about something like this than none.

    I'd also like to address a rumor about the nature of some of the cheating that people have been talking about. There has been speculation in the community that in order to pull off some of the rumored exploits someone had to be working on the "inside".

    We take such possibilities very seriously. And we have investigated this very thoroughly. We keep track of all special EverQuest commands issued. We have looked into the possibility that someone working here had a hand in helping others cheat, and we have discovered no evidence that indicates that to be the case. Also, the nature of the cheat did not require such inside help. I can't describe the cheat method in any detail, but there was an experience cheat that allowed extremely fast leveling. This required some rather sophisticated cheating, but was being done without inside help. Obviously we have removed that exploit and banned any accounts that used it.

    Thank you for playing EverQuest. And thank you for you help making the game fun.

    Have a great holiday season.


    Alan
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  • #2
    this begs the question will they ban people that used some of the pricing errors to turn a profit as well, or only those that actually did something that really was a cheat.

    I'm concerned because some of these so called cheats affected the cost of trade skill items that people commonly used. I'd hate to see someone banned for just using them in trade skills. (or supplying tradeskillers in the bazaar)
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    • #3
      It's all about how it was abused. Folks just doing their trade skilling shouldn't be affected by this at all. Those that were going out of their way to abuse the bug will be.

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      • #4
        I for one, wish I could be there when you get to push the big red button on your desk that smashes an account for cheating. Ooh, the joy of smashing....
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        • #5
          Thank the nice people on the FV server

          {Link removed. Do NOT link to descriptions of exploits.}
          Last edited by Verdandi; 12-08-2003, 09:22 PM.
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          • #6
            I've petitioned twice today about someone doing this in shadowhaven, both times I get a thanks, will look into it, is there anything else you need? btw how about buying LoE? (kidding on that last)

            yet as of now, he's still there.. still macroing.. still making his plat.

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            • #7
              EDIT request was taken care of thanks!
              Last edited by Renjah; 12-08-2003, 10:04 PM.

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              • #8
                We are pleased, however, to let you know that we are confident that we have located the majority of those that exploited the game and have removed their characters or accounts.
                What I want to know is why they fooled around with just deleting characters - they should've banned all affected accounts.

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                • #9
                  ah, thanks for cutting that link out. I was focused on the detective work they did to get it stopped
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                  • #10
                    (and here is where I wonder why they don't apply that energy and skill to something beneficial...).

                    It is beneficial. Same reason you take your manuscript to an editor, same reason the waves of annoying tho not exceedingly malicious viruses get sent out and wreak such havok.

                    The System is not perfect. Entities such as these find the flaws that the Makers simply overlook. The Entities point out the flaws, in occasionally painful ways, and the flaws get fixed. Quite simple, really. SOE did the fixing. Finally. Nothing more to be said about it.




                    Now, if they can just make sure I never have that **** Target Click Shows Help option come unselected again, I'll be very happy, tyvm.


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                    • #11
                      Exploit fixed on Live servers

                      As of this morning, I have personally confirmed that the MQ ore exploit no longer yields a profit.

                      Edit: details removed

                      I hope the economy starts to recover soon.
                      Last edited by Verdandi; 12-15-2003, 07:12 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Edit by Verdandi - DO NOT POST DETAILS ON EXPLOITS. If you find an exploit, /bug it and submit it to Developer's Corner. DO NOT POST THE DETAILS. That will only give the people who would take advantage of it and damage the economy that much of a head start.

                        And while I'm at it, do not post links to message board threads containing the details. Do not hint at the details. Just submit it to SOE. You can tell us all about it once it is completely and thoroughly fixed.

                        Thank you.
                        Last edited by Verdandi; 12-09-2003, 06:19 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Please tell me you're joking.
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                          • #14
                            nope

                            so they broke it but only long enough for the macroers to reprogram their macros
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                            • #15
                              exploits

                              sometimes imo we should link the exploits to every possible site we can find that has anything to do with EQ so that way SOE will jump to fix things much quicker rather than to allow them to stay in game so long


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