Unsolved recipies

[Rewde]

This is from Vredandi's thread on tradeskill questions to Maddoc.

The recipes for Brodder’s Revenge and Lewena’s favorite drink do currently work. However, they are among a moderately lengthy list of undiscovered recipes that span several trades. Hints may be added if those recipes remain undiscovered.

It's nice to know that those recipies do exist and are working, that we just need to figure them out. But what gets me is what he said after that. What would be considered moderately lenghty? 50? 75? 100? And, how many tradeskills? All of them?

Unfortunately, I am thinking that some of these unfound recipies are tied to barely visible clues given by NPCs, such a Lawena.

Maybe once we figure out those two, he could give us a couple clues as to where to look for a couple more of the missing recipies. Just a thought.

[Malodium]

Thier idea of us 'figuring out stuff' is to randomly combine crap until something works.
Given there are hundreds of tradeskill flagged items in the game, we MUST have some clue to push us in the right direction.

[Nihixul]

IIRC, all of the PoP poisons were found via trial and error, so it isn't impossible... just down right tedious. :P

I do, however, love the intrigue of unknown recipes.

[Itzena]

The intrigue wears off for me after about the two hundredth attempt at making something that you hope exists in game, isn't bugged and doesn't have any clue to it other than 'It exists'

/wave Hot Sauce, Brodder's Revenge et al.

And that's not even counting the items that might be part of a recipe...or might not. For an unknown tradeskill. With possible subcomines needed...or not.

/wave kaniz hides, waterleaf scale, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum et ad nausiam.

If something is part of a recipe there should be something in the game to give some sort of idea what to do with it - there are simply far too many possible combines that could be done on random items on the vague hope that there is an end product to what you are attempting.

Assuming, of course, that the recipe is working like SOE thought it would.

/wave lemming-hide backpacks, pre-patch.


Short form: No, I don't like the idea is having to randomly combine stuff to find new recipes without any sort of clues at all.

[Xenephex]

Still, it's nice for them to at least say whether it's working or not.

See - Fleeting Quiver. You have to wonder how many tens of thousands of worthless combines were done in the attempt to find a recipe that was not working. (and no, I don't think 'tens of thousands' is an exaggeration).

[Suva]

My only guess at the random combining to make things is when you go to make somehting you experiement for what tastes right or what works to make an item.

The difference is that in EQ the materials and ingredients don;t always make sense. Plus you don;t always know exacly what you are trying to mkae. This somewhat negates the experimental aspect. Since you just get a DNC instead of a failed object with a listing of what is wrong with it. Which I know is totally unpractical to be put into game, just a comment. If I decide to make a stew and I mess up the ingredients and add a tablespoon of salt instea dof a teaspoon, I know the problem with it tasting bad is too much salt.

hm, early morning ramblings and not sure how much sense I am making in this

[Ursawraith]

Well at least we know the scaler probably has a use now :P

[Gilgam]

I personally have grown tired of trying to work through random combines(with the exception of Brodder's clues...a sincere thanks to him). I personally think it is ridiculous to sit and churn through all of the items now tradeskill tagged.

[Veldin Darkfire]

I remember reading some time ago about one of the developers bragging about all the unfound / unsolved quests in eq and that there were quite a few of them.

Now personally I think that you should not be bragging about something like that but asking yourself, as a developer, WHY have they not been found yet? Why have they not been solved yet? Are they working? Are the items dropping? Are there ingame hints? Is the text working?

SoE tends to have things backwards rather often which is too bad.

Veldin

[Brodybeard]

Originally posted by Lord Grimrose
Well at least we know the scaler probably has a use now :P

I know the scaler mold is very useful now for making Dairy Spoons, Fileting Knives, Fishbone Dart Tools, and Scalers. But has a use for the scaler been found?

[Gilgam]

OH NO! Brodder is at is again.

Maybe the scaler is for the potato chips recipe he directed us towards.

[Quichon]

Speaking on lost/unfound recipies...

I started up a cleric alt, and I find that the summoned: blackened bread and the summoned: globe of water now have tradeskill tags on them. What are they used for? I checked the database and it didn't come up with them.

And as for Brodder's Revenge... We wouldn't have known to look for it had Brodder himself come and hinted that it existed. Again, NOTHING in the actual game that hinted of it's existance. I even checked with Brodder's kin (the dwarf cleric GM) and he had NOTHING to say about his brother Brodder. Now, considering Dwarves hold their family ties to be extremly important, I find this highly unusual unless Brodder was some sort of exile (which considering his exceptional brewing skills I find most doubtful).

[Emeraldeye]

Hmmm

Originally posted by Quichon
Speaking on lost/unfound recipies...

I even checked with Brodder's kin (the dwarf cleric GM) and he had NOTHING to say about his brother Brodder. Now, considering Dwarves hold their family ties to be extremly important, I find this highly unusual unless Brodder was some sort of exile (which considering his exceptional brewing skills I find most doubtful).

Unless his brewing skill was so good all the dwarves started worshiping kegs of his ale, instead of paying homage to their gods thereby creating competition for the temples, which then prompted his exile!!!

That probably explains why the cleric GM won't talk about him or maybe I am just a suspicious Wood Elf with one of many Dwarven conspiracies on the brain.

[Whizbang_Dustyboots]

Just so long as one of the recipes is gunpowder.

Come on, we've got saltpeter, charcoal and sulphur ... GNOMES WANT GUNS!

[eniamn]

would prolly be a tinkered one charge item with a fire nuke dd.