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  • #16
    "VI messed up? Not IMO. It's ok that there are dropped bows that are better"

    Uhm, I agree. It is ok for dropped bows to be better. AS LONG AS THEY ARE HARDER TO GET.

    I see no reason why a bow from a tier 1 plane would be better than a bow crafted from several drops in a tier 4 plane. *That* is messed up.

    Had I been itemizing PoP, things would have gone as follows:

    type 1: so so items drop off "common" mobs in a plane.
    type 2: items drop off common mobs in a plane can be used to create these items which are superior to type 1. BUT, are approximately the same quality as the type 3 from the previous tier planes. Ancilliary stats, (i.e. ac/hp/mana/resists/stat mods on weapons, resists/stat mods on armour) are lower than the type 3 items from the previous tier planes. Parts are, however, fairly rare. (rarer than nightmarewood parts drops, certainly)
    type 3: great items that drop off Bosses. Would be better than the type 2 items from the same plane, and approximately the same as the type 4 items from the previous tier plane.
    type 4: some items that drop off bosses can be used to create these items. They are the best items in that planar tier, however would require multiple boss kills, and luck on getting the drops to have a chance at succeeding on the finished product.

    This would do 2 things:
    1. It would rock for tradeskills.
    2. It would encourage guilds to make use/farm the highest level plane they can do, instead of simply farming lower level planes for better gear.
    Maena Bower
    Grandmaster Fletcher of the Bazaar
    Fennin Ro

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    • #17
      The reason the stats are not as good as the other bows that are listed is simply the fact that this is not flagged as no drop. Anything that is tradable will not be as good as something that is no drop, assuming similar difficulty in obtaining. The other factor is most likely that the elemental planes haven't been properly itemized/balanced as of yet. Although I wouldn't expect the stats to increase a whole lot with a patch. The fact that you can sell the bow really decreases the stats

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      • #18
        Proc

        What about the sieve proc? Thats what jumped out at me real quick, 50 mana off per proc. With a max dex archer, how often would that be going off (considering max haste and whatnot)?? For mobs that need sieving, I could see your raid force having 3-4 rangers switch to these. Might be lesser damage, but if it keeps the mob from healing/gating at the end, so be it.
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        • #19
          Based on what I have seen with my Nightmarewood Compound with max dex and max haste... not too bloody often. You would be lucky to get off one per mob.
          Hopwin Cara'Byth, Magelo Profile
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          • #20
            "The reason the stats are not as good as the other bows that are listed is simply the fact that this is not flagged as no drop"

            You had to get me started on No Drop. Another "feature" the game would be better off without, and for what it's worth, "Req level" and "difficulty to obtain" go considerable ways towards making it so only the creme have certain items. (i.e. SoD, Sal dagger.. back when they *were* the creme... or fairly close to it) IMO, the *only* think that should ever be No Drop are rewards from difficult quests. (which, incidentally, should be higher quality than the "type 4" items. 'course, they may *require* some of the "type 4" items to complete the quest...)

            'course, I don't particularly agree with the way req/rec. levels are implemented either. IMO, every item should scale with level or none should. Req. levels force you to constantly upgrade as you're level goes up, not just be able to buy/get the best, and have it stay with you. As it is, some items that aren't as good as other items above the req/rec level are "worth" more because they are useable by a much larger range of people.

            Oh, and yeah, mana seive for the proc is pretty darn close to useless. Odds are they'll regen the mana faster than you can drain it, even with multiple archers trying to drain.
            Maena Bower
            Grandmaster Fletcher of the Bazaar
            Fennin Ro

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            • #21
              Stupid VI

              They still didnt fix the spelling.
              Dokomo Thunderblade
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              • #22
                But at least they upgraded the stats so it's at least competitive with the other PoP bows.
                Maena Bower
                Grandmaster Fletcher of the Bazaar
                Fennin Ro

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                • #23
                  It is pretty competitive to tier 3 bows. For a ranger, the 5% archery bonus will probably outbalance the ratio deficiency relative to those bows. I started to consider using it instead of my bow of storms...until I got this:


                  Not fletched.

                  The component drop rates have been drastically changed. The staves are now either a very rare drop or put on specific mobs only. Our first 2 nights in Air we got 5+ bow staves. Last night, in 6 hours we got ZERO. This is adequate compensation for the nice upgrade IMO.

                  Oh, and the plane of air bow was upgraded as well, sorry I don't have a link. The proc was changed to etherial strike, the hp upped to 100 and the ratio changed to 28/28 or something like that. It also has 5% archery on it. If I get a link I will try to post the stats on it.
                  Lithledana Ivywolf
                  Forest Stalker of Afterlife

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