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    If anybody would be so kind as to list how many combines it took from 250 to 300; I would greatly appreciate it.

    Trying to figure out how much time/plat/etc I need to set aside for this venture.


    Thanks!

    ps - mainly interested in the WE route



  • #2
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    hmm maybe 800? did mithril champion arrows...oh and btw the mithril bricks stack now, so making arrows is about 1000% faster!

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    • #3
      I did 250-300 last week.

      Took approximatly 44 stack tries to complete the master. My WIS was 340 and my DEX was maxed to 425 for all combines.

      Cheers and good luck,


      Plainswalker of the 70th Season
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      • #4
        I've started on the process this week. I'm at 265 right now. It took 76 combines to go from 250 to 255 using Rough Shadewoods. It took 44 1-cam rough shadewoods to get to 257, and then 178 more 1-cam shadewoods to get to 265.

        EDIT: In a lucky session I had the following results:

        66 combines from 265->268, finishing up the 1-cams.

        Started on rough sedgewood compound bows:
        13 combines for 269
        26 more for 270 and 271.
        6 more for 272.
        Then a truly remarkable set of 80 where I got 8 skill ups to 280.
        Then 56 more combines to 282.


        I have spent a decent amount of plat on this (approx 60K), but I make my own cams on my gnome, so I've saved a wee bit.

        I plan to do the last 18 on Wood Elf Cultural. The stacking of mithril will make it a little easier, but I still hate all the running about.

        All of this was done with 400 Dexterity, using Wunshi's and Salik's Haste, plus my dex-friendly battle gear.

        EDIT: I got the remaining 18 poitns last night. I believe it took 357 Mithril Champion Arrow combines for those 18 point, just a shade shy of 1 per stack.
        Last edited by andyhre; 03-24-2005, 04:28 PM.
        Andyhre playing Guiscard, 78th-level Ranger, E`ci (Tunare)
        Master Artisan (2100 Club), Wielder of the Fully Functional Artisan's Charm, Proud carrier of the 8th shawl


        with occasion to call upon Gnomedeguerre, 16th-level Wizard, Master Tinker, E`ci (Tunare)


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        • #5
          I can't supply the "exact" amount, but it took me 6 runs, each run was between 210 - 220 attempts (depending on the number of precombine failures) and, an additional 40ish combines on top of that to hit 300. So, between 1260 -1360 for me.

          WIS of 350.
          Sunburnt Dmize - 80 Druid - D-Ro
          300 - Tailor +15%, Smith +12%, Fletcher +12%, Brewer +12%, JC +12%, Potter +12%, Baker +12%

          Phrump Eatsogres - 32 Gnome - D-Ro
          300 - Tinker +15%
          300 - Researcher +12%
          300 - Tailor +12%

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          • #6
            29 wood elf druid (my fletching alt).

            Started at 244 skill. Ended at 292 skill. I don't remember how many combines it took to hit 245 (was over 60) nor how many combines I made after 292 before I ran out of arrow components. However, I do know that I did 1800 arrow combines.

            I made batches of 120 arrow combines, and did them in sets of 3 between trips to the bank. Cost per 120 combine batch averaged about 1900 plat; I don't have an exact amount because if I had failures in the subcombines I bought more to finish the 120 combine set. I made all subcombines before starting on the 120 combine set, as well.

            All I can say is, 219 WIS as a high stat hurts, compared to the much higher int/wis that higher level characters can get. Also, if you're making arrows, its best to make the shafts first, because the molds don't stack.

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            • #7
              At 435 Dex, it took me approximately 860 combines from 250 to 300.

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              • #8
                I did - 19.5 stacks of mithral Arrows to go from 283 to 300. I still need to give away the 2.5 stacks I was left over with.

                I have NO idea how many shadewoods I did - but I did Shadewoods from Acrylia Triv to 282.

                I did ONE combine at 282 to go to 283 on the Class 7 Drake-spine arrow. go me! heh.

                During most of my drive from 260s on up I had between 305 Dex and 370 Dex depending on if I had wuunshi or not.
                Last edited by Elvenwalker; 03-27-2005, 06:37 PM. Reason: extra info

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                • #9
                  Ok, finished the run to 30 on my alt.

                  244 to 300 with 219 wis took me about 2000 mithril arrow combines. 200 of which got me from 292 to 300.

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                  • #10
                    Much appreciated guys. I've started my sub combines and hopefully by this weekend I'll have reached 300 and able to share my experience with others.



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                    • #11
                      With 355 dex & wis
                      Did 3 sessions:
                      First session: 300 Subcombines, 200 Combines
                      251->268

                      Second Session: 150 Subcombines, 100 Combines
                      268->277

                      Third Session: 360 Subcombines, 240 Combines
                      277->300 (note, Did 300 Subcombines and 200 combines for 298, did the stuff for 20 combines, got 299, then another 20 to get 300)

                      All Told, 810 Subcombines, 540 combines for a grand total of: 1350 times hitting the button

                      And btw: Ding 300 Fletching

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                      • #12
                        RNG or Dex?

                        I was always led to believe that the higher of WIS/INT or alt stat was the one used for skillups. Is this correct? I just did 200 combines of champion arrows and went from 268 to 270.

                        I was well into my second 100 combines before I even hit 269. My wis is always maxed at 405 without mind buffs but my dex is only around 285ish. Do i need to raise my dex or did I just get a bad run?

                        The other posters here seem to be getting MUCH better results than me.
                        Last edited by Yuliya; 04-29-2005, 04:28 PM.
                        Yuliya Gaflarglebargen, Gargles Traveling Circus of Xev
                        Master Fletcher (300) + Trophy
                        Master Baker (300) + Trophy
                        Expert Jeweler (300)
                        Journeyman Smith (200)
                        Journeyman Potter (200)
                        Journeyman Tailor (200)
                        Journeyman Brewer (200)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Yuliya
                          I was always led to believe that the higher of WIS/INT or alt stat was the one used for skillups. Is this correct?
                          Yes, smithing uses the higher of WIS / INT / STR, fletching and poisoncraft uses the higher of WIS / INT / DEX and all the other tradeskills just use the higher of WIS / INT for skill-up checks.
                          Oonna Wynterbreeze - 61 Enchanter

                          Jewelry - 300, Baking - 200, Brewing - 200, Fletching - 200, Pottery - 200, Research - 200, Tailoring - 188, Fishing - 184, Smithing - 125

                          The Rathe

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                          • #14
                            Frustration is setting in.

                            A couple posts up, the guy said he did 540 combines and went from 250 to 300.

                            I am currently over 2000 combines to get from 268 to 293. I am getting either 1 or 2 skillups per 200 combines. I have 4 characters who are full (24 10 slot satchels worth) of arrows.

                            I am approaching 20k arrows on hand and am succeeding sometimes as much as 195 times out of 200.

                            As stated above, my wis is always 405 without stat buffs. Do buffs such as kei or claivoyance help? Someone gimme an idea.. I'm running out of room
                            Yuliya Gaflarglebargen, Gargles Traveling Circus of Xev
                            Master Fletcher (300) + Trophy
                            Master Baker (300) + Trophy
                            Expert Jeweler (300)
                            Journeyman Smith (200)
                            Journeyman Potter (200)
                            Journeyman Tailor (200)
                            Journeyman Brewer (200)

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                            • #15
                              Leftover arrows can be donated to your tribute master for 1 point each. You can put a few stacks on your bazaar mules too, but they'll probably be slow sellers.

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