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  • #16
    As we can make veggies now
    I must have missed something.
    A streak of hope for us non foragers?
    Explain please.

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    • #17
      Carrot + Lettuce + Turnip in Mixing Bowl = Vegetables

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Maitreya
        Carrot + Lettuce + Turnip in Mixing Bowl = Vegetables
        These items can be found on many vendors. There's one in PoK (in the building with the Ovens), two in Abysmal Sea (again, where the Ovens are) and many other places.

        It has certainly helped me with making Omelets!
        Angelsyn Whitewings, Cleric of Tunare for 66! Seasons.
        Grandmistress Smith - 300, Grandmistress Tailor - 300, Potter - 300, Jeweler - 300, Brewer - 200, Baker - 200, Fletcher - 200, Fisherwoman - 169
        Keyne Falconer, Paladin of Erollisi Marr for 66 Seasons.
        Grandmistress Baker - 300, Grandmistress Blacksmith - 300, Potter - 200, Brewer - 139, Tailor - 91

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Maitreya
          Carrot + Lettuce + Turnip in Mixing Bowl = Vegetables
          ok, this is something that bothers me. why not just make vegtables buyable? my personal opinion is if a combine is something that can be made by completely vendor bought components, why can't there be somebody that just sell that product. this goes for things like heady kiola, barbacue sause and other things that would just make mine and other peoples lives easier.

          and i know, i should be posting this on the sony boards, but i figured maybe somebody here has heard from them of why they like to be difficult.
          Uruz Magnuson F.I.N.E. vodoo medicine man of Ring of Destiny on EMarr

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          • #20
            Originally posted by UruzMagnuson
            ok, this is something that bothers me. why not just make vegtables buyable? things that would just make mine and other peoples lives easier.
            Because SoE doesn't wanna make it easy OR logical, that's why lol. Besides, part of the fun of TSing is getting there, isn't it? Or am I missing something? As far as the BBQ sauce and stuff, making that ups TS for other stuff needed in the future.
            Last edited by Angelsyn; 06-03-2005, 04:37 AM.
            kadasi
            58th season Half-Elf Druid of Tunare
            E-Marr

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            • #21
              Originally posted by kadasi
              Because SoE doesn't wanna make it easy OR logical, that's why lol. Besides, part of the fun of TSing is getting there, isn't it? Or am I missing something? As far as the BBQ sauce and stuff, making that ups TS for other stuff needed in the future.
              Exactly.

              Logical? It seems pretty logical to me. You can go to the store and buy the ingrediants for "mixed vegetables", but it takes someone with a bit of skill to actually mix the vegetables in the proper proportions for the recipies.

              Yeah, subcombines are a pain... but at least Baking subcombines stack. Smithing subcombines (Tae Ew tempers, Sickle parts, Enchanted Ores) don't stack... and neither do the finished products! Now that is a PITA.
              Angelsyn Whitewings, Cleric of Tunare for 66! Seasons.
              Grandmistress Smith - 300, Grandmistress Tailor - 300, Potter - 300, Jeweler - 300, Brewer - 200, Baker - 200, Fletcher - 200, Fisherwoman - 169
              Keyne Falconer, Paladin of Erollisi Marr for 66 Seasons.
              Grandmistress Baker - 300, Grandmistress Blacksmith - 300, Potter - 200, Brewer - 139, Tailor - 91

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              • #22
                Abysmal traps

                Wasting time the other day in Abysmal hailing various NPC's and ran accross one that talked about terrible things in the water and abandoned traps that noone has the guts to check anymore.

                So, being one who had exp. recovery at my liesure I jumped in and started hitting the F8 key to see if I could get anything on target. Ended up finding and marking on my map static spawns of 4 to 6 traps (dont remember exact number). I opened the traps and then looted them finding several sizes of crabs. listed as meals of various types. will have to go back and check them to see if they can be used in tradeskills.

                Never did encounter any hostile mobs of any type while underwater btw and waited for the respawns of traps thru 3 cycles, seems to be about a 10 minute spawn time on them.

                Well there's something for you to explore next time in abysmal... enjoy.
                Lhife - Beastlord

                Lhifes Groupwiped - Cleric

                Pawket Pikker - Rogue

                Oejae - Enchanter

                and 17 random others living the Drinal lifestyle

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                • #23
                  Baking misery

                  I have another little rain cloud to present here.

                  Since reaching 207 in baking, I have AVERAGED around 196 combines per skillup. I am now at skill 232.

                  So I have obtained 25 skillups in about 4900 combines.
                  I am not exaggerating here, I have kept a rather close account of my baking attempts, out of curiosity regarding the 'new' skillup formula. I began keeping track when I noticed that it was taking an unusually long number of combines to reach 207, I think it took me around 200 combines to get from 207 to 208.

                  My streak of averaging 196 combines per skillup actually predates the patch that supposedly changed the skillup rate, by about two months. My record for most combines required for a single skillup was 719; I also obtained two skillups on two combines, at one point.

                  If anything, my skillup rate since the patch has been dramatically reduced. I thought that the difficulty of certain recipes was supposed to increase chances of skillup on a given combine, but perhaps that has not yet been coded into the game?

                  At any rate, I have reached the point where I am now seriously considering abandoning tradeskilling altogether, it is becoming simply too frustrating to me. It is also becoming quite costly.

                  I am not sure why I have such an abysmal skillup rate, perhaps it is just me. My INT is between 210 and 233, depending on whether I get KEI or not.

                  So anyway, don't feel too badly about your poor skillup rates, I think I have the worst one listed here so far

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hyllo
                    I thought that the difficulty of certain recipes was supposed to increase chances of skillup on a given combine, but perhaps that has not yet been coded into the game?
                    When it goes live, we have been told there may be some combines with a greater chance of skillup due to difficult to obtain ingredients.

                    As for recipes with a greater difficulty level increasing your chances... well if you mean those with a much greater trivial than your skill, no, the opposite is probably true. The pundits have told us we have the greatest chance to skillup on successes, and the most successes come from recipes whose trivial is closer to your base skill, which is supposed to make them the best to use. So perhaps if you try combines that are within 5 or 10 points of your skill you will have better luck.

                    Kemie

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kemie Dreamshadow
                      The pundits have told us we have the greatest chance to skillup on successes, and the most successes come from recipes whose trivial is closer to your base skill, which is supposed to make them the best to use. So perhaps if you try combines that are within 5 or 10 points of your skill you will have better luck.

                      Kemie
                      I always do this, actually, attempting recipes that are within five or six trivial from my current skill. The 719 consecutive unsuccessful combines came at my baking skill 221, attempting to make beer-battered hynid/cragbeast steaks, which trivial at 222.

                      Also, thank you for pointing out the problem with what i said about more difficult recipes. I meant as you have noted, more difficult ingredients, not higher trivial.

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                      • #26
                        Owie! =(

                        You're right then, the RNG hates you. I know how I felt going over 200 combines for each of the last three points or so in my jewelcrafting (but that's up in the 290's), and I haven't worked on that in ages - it was too "not fun."

                        The thread in the main discussion, on talking with Absor and Maddoc at the FanFaire, touches on the chance of anyone experiencing a run of 1000 without a skillup. It's a slim chance, but it's there. Sad but true.

                        Anyway, hopefully you won't give tradeskills up entirely, but taking a break from baking and doing something else for a bit may help a little.

                        Kemie

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