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    Now that Veggies are readily available, any new advice on getting from 200-250, for those who don't forage, such as using recipes that require items obtained from fishing in Abysmal?

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    I found some of my notes for my baking plan. Its not very nice or neat due to the fact that its personal notes but these might give you an idea. I know there are GoD recipies that go over 250 as well, I found them with a guildie the other day but didn't actually write it down.

    My personal skill up path (as a forager so veggies was never a worry):

    Barbequed Crab Rolls 196
    Barbequed Tuna Rolls 196


    storm salmon fillet 202


    Beer-Battered Crab Rolls 207
    Beer-Battered Tuna Rolls 207


    Beer-Braised Cragbeast Steaks 216
    Beer-Braised Hynid Steaks 216


    Beer-Battered Cragbeast Steaks 222
    Beer-Battered Hynid Steaks 222


    Beer-Braised Cragbeast Pie 232
    Beer-Braised Hynid Pie 232
    Beer-Braised Tuna Pie 232
    - all Pie needs veggies and eggs


    Barbequed Crab Souffle 242
    Barbequed Cragbeast Souffle 242
    Barbequed Hynid Souffle 242
    Barbequed Tuna Souffle 242
    - all Souffle needs veggies and eggs

    Alternates / as I find

    holy cake 242

    anaconda melt 275
    griffon melt 275

    planar fruit pies 282

    swamp rat crunchies 295

    boar chops / jord meat also good.

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    • #3
      Planar fruit pies aren't any good to a non-forager, since they require foraged items from Plane of Justice. Now, if you've got a forager over the level of 46, go for it. They are expensive to make, because they are a one on one combine, but I sell them for 15pp each, which is about 3 x what they cost to make. I have a number of people that prefer them over the halas meat pies even though they are considerably more expensive, and they will buy all I make every time I do a run.

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      • #4
        Personally

        I went from 200 to 250 with MTPs

        *shrug* was easy to do and was making enough to FUND and make money for my combines...

        IIRC the only real component that isn't bought is brownie parts... for the winter cocoa... but that is 2-3 hours in Lesser Fay... IF that... I prefer ShadowHaven for my Tradeskill Spot since EVERYTHING but the Brownie parts are there...

        I had a set of 4 bags that I used for tradeskills *Baking* that I traded out with my normal weapon and food bags... I also ended up with 1 bag of tools *10 slot* and one of those was rations...

        *shrug* took me less than a night to max it *2-3hours* but that was also in POK at the time *with the wife runnin to SH to grab me jum jum stalks* and to boot, the spiced jum jum kicks up your brewing as well...

        But then again this is with the new tradeskill UI and selling stacks of the MTPs for like 100-150 plat a piece...

        Its also a cash cow if you do it right...

        anywhos... just my opinion...

        -me

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Winthera
          Now that Veggies are readily available, any new advice on getting from 200-250, for those who don't forage, such as using recipes that require items obtained from fishing in Abysmal?
          veggies are readily availible now? when did this happen? i'm really only a part time tradeskiller and pretty lazy about it. but bakeing is one of the ones i like doing, and have a ready supply of veggies would be wonderfull.
          Uruz Magnuson F.I.N.E. vodoo medicine man of Ring of Destiny on EMarr

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          • #6
            Originally posted by UruzMagnuson
            veggies are readily availible now? when did this happen? i'm really only a part time tradeskiller and pretty lazy about it. but bakeing is one of the ones i like doing, and have a ready supply of veggies would be wonderfull.
            Yes veggies are readily available. Combine carrots, lettuce, and turnips in a mixing bowl
            Live and learn. Forget and die!

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            • #7
              pop friut pies

              Originally posted by Sanadila
              Planar fruit pies aren't any good to a non-forager, since they require foraged items from Plane of Justice. Now, if you've got a forager over the level of 46, go for it. They are expensive to make, because they are a one on one combine, but I sell them for 15pp each, which is about 3 x what they cost to make. I have a number of people that prefer them over the halas meat pies even though they are considerably more expensive, and they will buy all I make every time I do a run.
              wow! all u get is 15pp? i sell them for 50pp,when i make them that is ,since im not a forager ,fruit is expensive ..so mainly i make lemon buttered hynid pies,of course u must also brew to make them.

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              • #8
                She plays on test server, prices are radically different.

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                • #9
                  I'm Gonna Hate Myself...

                  ...for giving away my secret, but I've gotten an awful lot of help here, so it's only fair. You should copy this list of parts, and every time you're visiting merchants in the Plane of Knowledge or the Plane of Tranquility, give a quick look for them. Everything on the list can be bought very cheap (less than 5 plat per part, and often less than one plat) and can be used in an easy-to-make, over-250 baking combine. If I check all of the merchants in PoT, I can often find enough of these to make up 20 combines all told. Some of these are not for practice (hero parts and planar fruit are better saved until you master baking, but even they can get you skillups if you're in "Geerlok heaven" between 240 and 250 skill), but all will yield a 250-plus combine.

                  Blood raven parts
                  Boar meat
                  Hero parts
                  Hobgoblin meat
                  Jord meat
                  Mephit meat (make the sandwiches for practice, pies for real food)
                  Planar fruit
                  Swamp rat parts
                  Bloody tormentor parts
                  Triloun meat
                  Vann toes

                  They won't be a reliable source for guaranteed skillups, but it's a good break from picnics, and if you can get friends or guildmates to keep an eye out or save them from hunting runs, you'll be amazed how fast this stuff piles up.

                  Happy baking!

                  Silverfish

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                  • #10
                    Are Misty Thickets obselete?

                    I'm just curious why folks still flood the market with Misty Thicket Picnics. There's so many altenatives which are MUCH easier and don't require so many subcombines.

                    I finally arrived at 250 skill just last week, WOOT. From about 220 onward, I was doing nothing but GoD recipes. I even stopped making the highly profitable Halas Meat Pies early, because GoD was much easier.

                    For the cost of bait, I get piles and piles and piles of crab and tuna. I foraged my own vegetables until they added the recipe, but on the last couple stacks, I made veggies. The last 20 points came from nothing but Beer-Battered Souffles, which last quite a while and have very nice stats.

                    On my server, Misty Thicket Picnics often sell for LESS than Halas Meat Pies. Is it worth it?
                    Last edited by Neebat; 02-10-2005, 11:44 AM. Reason: clarification
                    I tried combining Celestial Solvent, a Raw Rough Hide, Rough Hide Solution and a Skinning Knife. But the result was such an oxymoron, it opened a rift into another universe. I fell through into one of Nodyin's spreadsheets and was slain by a misplaced decimal.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Silverfish
                      Everything on the list can be bought very cheap (less than 5 plat per part, and often less than one plat)

                      I wish! On Emarr all those meats average 40-90pp each in the bazaar, and finding them on vendors is a rare, rare treat.

                      Fortunately, my druid forager got to a level to hunt in Jaggedpine, and I've done 180-220 on griff and anaconda melts. Lot less subcombines on those, which appeal to my lazy wizard.
                      Grenoble
                      Iksar Shaman

                      Laedria
                      DE Wizardess and Nuker Extroardinaire

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                      • #12
                        I am 250 baker. I did do souffle's for a bit, but stopped making any kind of profit after a while. People on my server just preferred MTP's and I made a much better profit from those than souffles. I could make 200 or more picnics for about 200pp and 1800 pp profit. I never made that good of a profit for the souffles. Plus the fact I could make my vegetable stretch alot farther on picnics than souffles.

                        I did even after getting to 250 the 10 lb. Halas Meat Pies. Those just sat on my mule for weeks. I couldn't give them away hardly. I was finally able to unload them at a loss. I think it depends on the server whether a market is flooded with a particular product. Yes, there are quite a few people who sell the picnics, but for the most part,t here are only 3 or 4 people on in the bazaar at the same time selling them.

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                        • #13
                          *shrugs* On Test, I did really well with both Misty Thickets and Halas Meat Pies. The melees liked the Halas, the casters liked the Picnics. Same with Qeynos Teas and Grobb liquidized meat. The Pies and Grobb drink sold a bit slower, but were still steady sellers. I made over 100,000 pp in 6 months just keeping those items in stock all the time.

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                          • #14
                            recipe is on live since december 15 yes ? )
                            hooo putain que c'est bon les grills)
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Neebat
                              I'm just curious why folks still flood the market with Misty Thicket Picnics. There's so many altenatives which are MUCH easier and don't require so many subcombines.
                              I went from 250 to 300 in about 4-5 hours making MTPs, including a RL lunch break, a bit of work, etc. The advantage is in the logistics; nearly all of the parts are vendor-purchasable in one small zone (if you use SH). I started with the Jumjum in SH, then zoned to PoK and stayed since I knew where those vendors were. I would make 1 tour of PoK and collect 1 stack of each ingredient (about 7 mins including pre-combines), then those 1 stacks allow for 400 combines. I think that I had to "make the rounds" 3 times. The only initial work I would have needed to do was to get a few brownie parts, and I still had a stack. The cost is negligible. In addition, the number of combines is not that high as you might think. for each stack of MTPs (20 clicks), it takes ~15 prestep clicks. That's not too annoying, and once you are used to it, it moves along swiftly. Plus, the legwork breaks up the tradeskill sessions into manageable hunks, and I needed to bank the zillions of MTPs at about that time, anyway.
                              Berrew
                              Archon of Brell Serilis
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