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  • #16
    From the crucible once again

    Quote:
    Ngreth Thergn wrote:
    Ungkor wrote:
    Ngreth Thergn wrote:
    Landar wrote:
    I know this is probably a big time stretch ..... but it was meantioned somewhere in a different post that is would be totally helpful if we could make 100 shot potions. I.E. Taking 10 - 10-shot DS potions and placing them in the bearskin bag and making them into 1 - 100shot DS potion. Is there any chance of that happening in this patch. I know a many shaman that would love this. If not, is there a reason why this cant happen ? Thanks for you time.

    Land


    At this time we will not be making 100 shot potions (you will see why what you asked will not work in the fashion you mentioned when the expansion is released. But at this time we do not plan for "100" in the new method either. There may be some other benefits though )


    Intriguing

    Hmm let the speculation begin....

    Ok, my first guesses.
    1. Potions no longer have "doses", but are consumed slowly over time! Hrm. Then how could cure potions work. Ok that one is out, maybe.
    2. Potions aren't made one dose at a time, but have a certain dose value based on the size of the jug you make them with? So you can brew/combine/stir up? 25 hydrangea and sumbul in one large jug to make a huge 25 clicky antiweight potion?
    3. Potions, once drank, give that person the ability to cast that spell a certain amount of times? The potion disappears from inventory, and you can either make a hotkey or mem it in a spell gem? People can drink some set amount of potions at once, and that ability shows up in a new 'potion spell window' for them to choose from at a later date? Hrm. overpowering maybe hehe.
    4. Ok, I'm out of ideas

    Ok, so what would make the doses of a potion irrelevant to potion making? At least thats how I interpret the above quote...

    edit: nevermind hehe. I missed the new stacking bit lol.

    Maddoc answered it (Spoilsport! I wanted to suprise folks!!!)
    They now stack, up to 20. (so more than 10, but not 100!)

    Note. This stacking will have a "detrimental" effect if you guys think about it enough (people abused the bug enough! Basically fixed a longstanding "bug")


    I'm sure your refering to selling back a potion with only 1 charge on it and that it sells for the same as one with 10 charges.
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    Maddoc
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    Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject:

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    Yes, that's what he's talking about, and it's an age-old problem with pretty much anything sellable that has charges.

    The stackability changes coming to Alchemy correct this bug, while at the same time making things a good bit easier on you guys in the long run (less clicking, hooray!).
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Deathby
      Where Will I find a handful of prism grain, found pinch and measure but no handful?
      found in PoK

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      • #18
        What is the cast time on new potions? Still 10.0? Price decrease was nice, having to exploit to get a decent price wasn't very fun.
        [Selling a 10 dose potion with 1 charge for 2kpp and a 10 dose potion with 10 charges for the same price was an exploit, no matter how you look at. Unavoidable with current code, and maybe not frowned upon, but yeah it wasn't nice.]

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Jekrnu
          What is the cast time on new potions? Still 10.0? Price decrease was nice, having to exploit to get a decent price wasn't very fun.
          [Selling a 10 dose potion with 1 charge for 2kpp and a 10 dose potion with 10 charges for the same price was an exploit, no matter how you look at. Unavoidable with current code, and maybe not frowned upon, but yeah it wasn't nice.]
          If it was an exploit but unavoidable they could have balanced the prices to take it into account a long time ago but they didn't. So why double the price now?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Phicksen
            I love love love the fact that you dont have to worry about combining 'em 10 at a time also. And stacking to 20 is great too. Not so much loving the fact that it seems i now need to go to 3 different zones (with even more vendors) for the ingredients . The trivial is down from 176 to 131, and that will cut down on fails (although i always suspected that the old fate potion had a hard success cap on it).
            AMEN brother ! what a pain IMO just for a gate potion

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            • #21
              99% sure that Abysmal Sea vendors have everything but the Blade Leaf, that was in Shadowhaven. The 1% uncertainty is the Handful of Prism Grains as I purchased them in PoK, but pretty sure they were available in Abysmal as well.
              Chimaera
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              • #22
                hmm, i didnt see heliotrope in abysmal sea... I must take another look!

                The handful of prism grains is available in pok, and abysmal.

                Phicksen


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                • #23
                  Well, they could have, they could have made the 10 dose potion sell back to merchant for the same as a 1 charge did. Apparently they didn't want that, since alchemy prices were already so screwed up. I really don't know why they didn't, makes more sense to me to do it, but it's the coding- the 10 dose with 10 charges selling for the same price as a 10 dose with 1 charge is wrong, it's just that the system has no way to distinquish against charges, so it sold for much more than was necessary. Did you really think they meant for you to use 9 doses out of a 10 charge item, and sell it back to a merchant for such a high price?

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                  • #24
                    All the parts should be in abysmal, shadowhaven, thurgaden, and PoK (I.E. you can get all parts in one zone)

                    I think I was a bit skittish with the beta merchant thing... and the vendors I MEANT to have in PoK may not be spawning. I will be checking that.

                    And yes, the old 10 dose thing was a bug, and a long standing bug, that yes we fixed. You do know that sometimes players do not bring these bugs to our attention until we "fix" them and oops... they no longer have their bug to "exploit" and THEN we hear about it. (I am putting exploit in quotes there because though by technical terms, it was an exploit... it is not one we are going to be taking any "action" on other than fixing the bug)
                    Ngreth Thergn

                    Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
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                    Master Tailor 200
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                    • #25
                      Confirmed Gate Potion

                      Here's what I was successful in making this morning:

                      Philter of Major Translocation (trivial 131)

                      Prices were with a Charisma of 143

                      2 - Heliotrope - from Serin O`Danos in PoK for 41p 4g 7s 5c
                      3 - Handful of Prism Grains - From Johannes O`Danos in PoK for 1p 0g 4s 9c
                      1 - Simple Potion Vial - From Andreas O`Danos in PoK for 1p 5g 7s 4c
                      1 - Blade Leaf - From Steaon Alarenier in Shadowhaven for 5p 2g 4s 9c
                      1 - Yebamante - From Jorlan Hegeway in Abysmal Sea for 52p 4g 9s 9c

                      Total cost for ONE potion with a Charisma of 143: 145p 4g 1s 9c
                      Last edited by Jandoleer; 02-24-2006, 02:28 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Are the gates to Innothule, FoB, Shadeweaver, Everfrost, and Twilight Sea going to be more reasonably priced? Also nice because those don't collapse.

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                        • #27
                          Not all in one zone.

                          [QUOTE=Ngreth Thergn]All the parts should be in abysmal, shadowhaven, thurgaden, and PoK (I.E. you can get all parts in one zone)


                          I made this last night and had to go to 3 different zones to get the items. I have not checked today ( I will in a few). Seems kind of a stretch to have to run all over to make one type of potion.
                          <update> Still not available in one place. Yebamate seems to be only available in Abysmal Sea. Blade Leaf while not available in PoK is in Shadow Haven.

                          Still working on the Alchemy trohpy (skill is at 277). Sounds like I may be better off skilling to 300 and doing that trophy instead....

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Jandoleer
                            Here's what I was successful in making this morning:

                            Philter of Major Translocation (trivial 131)

                            Prices were with a Charisma of 143

                            2 - Heliotrope - from Serin O`Danos in PoK for 41p 4g 7s 5c
                            3 - Handful of Prism Grains - From Johannes O`Danos in PoK for 1p 0g 4s 9c
                            1 - Simple Potion Vial - From Andreas O`Danos in PoK for 1p 5g 7s 4c
                            1 - Blade Leaf - From Steaon Alarenier in Shadowhaven for 5p 2g 4s 9c
                            1 - Yebamante - From Jorlan Hegeway in Abysmal Sea for 52p 4g 9s 9c

                            Total cost for ONE potion with a Charisma of 143: 145p 4g 1s 9c
                            is all of that not available in Abysmal?

                            I will definitely be looking into adding one more vendor to the shopping malls that consolidates the herbs that existed before this (I did not move any existing herbs... thus the "scattering" though I thought abysmal might have it all)
                            Ngreth Thergn

                            Ngreth nice Ogre. Ngreth not eat you. Well.... Ngreth not eat you if you still wiggle!
                            Grandmaster Smith 250
                            Master Tailor 200
                            Ogres not dumb - we not lose entire city to froggies

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                            • #29
                              the only 'Gate' ingredient you have to actively zone for is the Blade Leaf from SH, the rest of them are on one trader or the other in Abysmal, according to their 'strength' for lack of a better word
                              Mistress Magsham
                              The one and only Rathe, baby!

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                              • #30
                                Not bad all in all. Dropped cost by 100p per dose appx?

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