Trolls beware, you may lose your cultural tradeskill

[Groghe]

I was directed to this thread on the SK forums:

http://forums.shadowknight.org/showthread.php?s=0bc09166c4b03f858b95821db470fade& threadid=11042

Apparently Trolls have been evicted from Grobb, or will be soon. Although Troll smithing may be lacking if you don't start bugging the developers now your cultural forge might not get moved to your new home city when LoY goes live.

[Cantatus]

Well, LoY isn't set to go live til Feb 24th, so I don't think we'll be seeing any changes to Grobb before then. That said, they have a lot of time to make sure they tie up the loose ends.

[ElDrago]

I so see them leaving the **** forge there... I will have to work on my froglock faction just to do my cultural.

[Meschit]

I just checked Neriak foreign quarter....there's no troll cultural forge there. I have invested TOO MUCH TIME to be able to make troll cultural weapons for all that to be thrown away now!! This swallows rancid donkey semen. I could have been level 60+, but I chose to farm greens so I could get my smithing skill up. I could have gone on a lot more raids with my guild. I missed out on a lot of things just so I could be the only troll GM smith on my server. AND NOW ALL THAT TIME WAS WASTED@!!! This ****ing bites the big one. I'm seeing red right now amd I ogtta calm down before i chew out some dev assholes AARARRGAGHRAGHGHRAGHAGHAGHAGHRAGHGHAGHRGHAGHAHRGHA RGHGHGHGRAGHGHRGHRGH!!!!!!!!!!

[Angelsyn]

Grobb is no more as of tonight.

See my post in the PSR (and some posts in General) about this situation.

[Narith]

Well, LoY isn't set to go live til Feb 24th, so I don't think we'll be seeing any changes to Grobb before then. That said, they have a lot of time to make sure they tie up the loose ends.

/snicker

[Remf da Troll]

Freaking morons at verant strike again-

Hi all-

Well, not only did they nerf the troll starting city, BUT THEY DID A CRAPPY JOB OF IT TOO. After the "invasion" event, the zone repopped with frogs, but the cultural forge was still there. Since I'd spent a TON of time working faction up to get the wood elf mask from guk, I could still go in and use it... UNTIL THE SECOND PATCH. Now the cultural forge is gone from grobb, AND it's not been re-placed into Neriak. Oh, they put in a new forge there- but it's a REGULAR forge and less than 10 feet from the other one. Nice one ex-verant-droids, thanks for less than nothing! Bet the "new starting race" part of the expansion was MUCH cheaper since you re-used 99% of the content from grobb, couldn't you have spent the extra $$$ you saved on some freaking QA??? Maybe the ritalin bills were higher this month or something...

Talk about insult to injury- screw up a whole races town (even if it was a crappy town, it WAS OURS!) AND do a sloppy and incomplete job of it to boot. WTG veRANT, good to see that your QA department still {can't seem to do their job}

RdT.
p.s. mods, sorry for the rant (delete or move to PSR if appropriate) but I'm cheezed off and venting. Have been saving up cultural smithing supplies for several MONTHS, and now it's all expensive but basically useless JUNK. Given verant's track record on fixing things (anyone care for a 6 month "fix" to a focus item bug?), and a new expansion with all the chaos and generally poor quality that goes with it, I'm not at all sure it'll be fixed any time soon. Geeze, trolls don't even rate their own city anymore, why would they bother with cultural smithing?!?

{It was a primal screem. I did have to remove your insult to SOE, we do not tolerate that. I changed it to a complaint. - Ngreth}

[Kradlum]

Did you /petition, /bug or /feedback this (I would do all 3 in this situation)? If you didn't then you have only yourself to blame for any delays in fixing it.

[Cantatus]

/em removed foot from mouth ops:

Guess I was wrong.

Anyhoo, I posted in the Moderator's Corner for Niami to let Frizznik know this was overlooked. Also, as of now, there are absolutely no tradeskill containers (forge, oven, etc.) in Gukta at all.

[Remf da Troll]

petition bug feedback

Hola again-

Yes, I did all 3- the /feedback wasn't all that positive, but it had all the details at least, and some "healthy" opinion added in too. The /petition was (big shock here) completely ignored, as usual.

Grobb WAS an under utilized zone, but only because they did a rotten job with it in the first place. Instead of fixing or upgrading it, someone at Sony probably saw $$$ signs and said "hey, we can use THAT zone for the new froggies, and save all that time from actually having to develop anything- and we won't have to add servers either!". Hope whoever was responsible has all kinds of bad karma from this... if I believed in karma anyway.

RdT.

[Glatius2]

I definitely agree that the Troll cultural forge issue needs to be addressed. It's not reasonable to remove an entire tradeskill line from a race as a result of dynamic content.

I'm hoping SOE is reasonable and takes care of the issue in a timely fashion.

[sumamael]

Gonna move this to the PSR because of RdT's rant.
While I agree with him 100% leaving it in this forum would encourage other folks to ignore the rules and post rants in the wrong forums as well

[Lilosh]

I am sick and tired of this.

You are the second person here, and a couple elsewhere, to rant and rave about the CHEAP DROIDS AT VERANT!

Why is that that the SECOND that Sony makes a change that affects your chosen race, that people feel the need to, instead of ranting that they dont like the change because of personal reasons, they INSIST that it was done because Sony is evil, cheap, greedy, stupid, and smells of prawns.


STOP NAME CALLING BECAUSE *YOU* DON'T LIKE THE CHANGE.

It's dynamic content, it's fairly clever, and almost every person I have talked to in game has liked it, Even if their characters dont. Several people organized defense forces for Grobb. Many Frogs Died, as did many trolls.

You honestly have no idea why Sony makes the changes the way they do, and neither do I. Dont assume that you know the "heartless reasons" behind this "Evil conglomerate"



-Lilosh

[Remf da Troll]

motivations-

Heyas-

I'll bet a ton it was purely a $$$ decision, not "dynamic content". Re-using grobb with a minimum of graphics-only overlays saved them having to develop a new zone, provide it for download, AND supply servers for it. I'm sure it saved them big bucks. They just did a crappy job of it, as usual. I've never said they were "evil", just lazy and sloppy, and more than a bit inconsiderate. They can justify about anything by ignoring the specifics and pointing to whatever passes for the "vision" there nowdays- probably the bottom line.

RdT.

[Groghe]

Saying it was cheaper to "re-use" Grobb as opposed to making a new zone for the Frogloks is ludicrous. If there were no other new zones being added with LoY this might be an argument. But as it is, they are adding new content along with the drastic changes to 4 zones ( Grobb, Neriak, Innothule and Nektulos ).

Explain to me how its cheaper to make sweeping changes to 4 zones than it is to create one new one? Do you know their man-hour costs and projected project hours for the two scenarios?

This is only the beginning of what's coming for the zones I mentioned. I'm looking forward to what's coming in the next couple of weeks.

My troll beastlord, however, is furious and vowing revenge on both the Frogloks and the Innorruk worshipping betrayers who caused this. :twisted: