Nobody in Particular

[Heartsong_Steelsoul]

re: cannibalize. I don't know, I had a shaman in a group with my cleric, probably low 30's, so the first one.

He canni'ed himself low enough to draw aggro due to health and died before I could even stand up.

Doh.

[Grenoble]

Another irritation about canni, too...although my spell abilities are maxed, I fizzle it every 5th or 6th cast.

Figures it's the only time it USES mana.

[Draggar]

To people who group with rogues...

DON'T surround the MOB! I can't backstab well when they're facing in all directions!

DON'T BUFF ME WHILE I"M INVIS! So many times someone decides to buff me while I'm sneaking around and scouting out the terrain ahead, only to lose it in the middle of a group of angry monsters (but I think that's been fixed now).

also..

DON'T COMPLAIN IF YOU DON'T SEE ME. "Where did ya go?" , "Chicken dood!" is all I hear. Hey, I'm hiding, hiding brings on a higher chance of a backstab.

Don't remind me to backstab. Why the (insert 4-letter word of your choice) do you think one of the reasons why I chose a rogue? BACKSTAB. I know enough to do it, you see a 350+ point damage in the melee window? That was me.

Don't tell me to use poisons all the time. They're expensive. The ones I do right now are roughly 25PP PER COMBINE. When we get to Uber_Boss_Person01 at the end, then I'll use it. And I CANNOT poison your blades for you.

KEEP AGRO OFF ME. (Referr to #1) Not only that, I have fewer hit points than a shaman. Roughly 1/3 of what a good War has at my level, too.

I know when to use intimidation, and when not to use intimidation. HGs in Rathe? Good time. in LDoN? BAD TIME.

Don't tell me I'd be better off with my 1HS in my primart, referr to #1.

And lastly, (and yes, I get this ALL the time)

Rogues cannot SOW, buff, heal, nuke, root, bind, evac, gate, port, KEI, REZ, DOT, cure, or anything else. We're al MELEE class, we have no spells, and if I cast one, its because I have a right clicky item.

Oh, and don't be afraid of the Iksar Rogue, he won't eat you... yet...

[Verdandi]

Originally posted by Draggar DON'T COMPLAIN IF YOU DON'T SEE ME. "Where did ya go?" , "Chicken dood!" is all I hear. Hey, I'm hiding, hiding brings on a higher chance of a backstab.

To rogues who group with shamans: Don't complain when you don't get buffed because I can't see you even though I just announced that I'm buffing.

[Malathos]

To the people in the group who appointed the pally to pull because he could could use soothe and not pull the entire room in one go - great !

To the secondary tank who then charges blithely past me into the middle of the room I'm in the process of soothing - doh !

To the same tank who managed to get the entire group wiped twice using that process then disbanded because we obviously didn't know what we were doing - close the door on your way out !


Oh, and grats on the shawl combine at the weekend Lilosh

[Goresmash]

To the "low on mana Battle-Cleric"... SIT THE HECK DOWN!!!
....
oh there's so many... the full-mana necro that's not twitching the lom Cleric...

I can't speak for all necros, but I refuse to twitch any cleric/druid/shaman that thinks thier "l33t" melee DPS is helping and won't sit and med.

[Balkin]

This has proved an interesting thread.

I call my cleric a battle cleric. After a warrior main for almost 4 years, I can't NOT be involved in the battle!

However, I only melee if above 80% mana. Otherwise, I'm sitting down.

If you see me LOM and still melee'ing, it's because root keeps breaking, so there's no point in me sitting down! I know enough to sit and med when I'm LOM, thanks...

However, I HAVE seen cleric's go OOM, and stay that way cause they just stand around waiting for the next Mob to attack. What's up with that? Makes me shudder just to think of it.

[Aethia]

LOL - I learned alot about other classes in this thread, most of it quite useful (the rest just plain funny).

But as a necro, running full mana, don't yell at me because I twitched you. I read the spell messages and I see you are casting a spell. I know how much mana Pacify takes. I know how much mana your heals (cleric and druids alike) take. And if I am running full mana (which I usually do in most dungeons, and 80% in BOT) I use it.

I don't like down time. PERIOD. I want to play fast and furious, yet intelligently and controlled. If I twitch you after you cast a spell, I can guarantee you that you aren't at full mana after you cast that spell. That's why I gave you mana. I generate it faster then I can use it.

Nothing bugs me more then sitting at full mana and being told "I'm fine" just to hear 3 minutes later "OOM".

I twitch as I go, ensuring that the group keeps moving. Oh, and I have no problem if you heal me, as long as I don't here "OOM" after the cast

Yes, I know, I may be unusual as a necro, but I believe that you use all the tools that are appropriate at your disposal. Especially if the group doesn't have KEI/VOQ on anyone casting a spell.

[QuteCleric]

As a cleric I admit to not knowing all that much about the shaman class(never having played one post 25-30ish).. however, what upsets me is the shamen who canni down for mana regen then expect me to put them on the top of the priority list for heals.... right, because their mana is necessarily more important than mine....Not saying mine's more important than theirs, but I manage my mana fine, they can as well...

Qutie!

[kiztent]

Originally posted by QuteCleric
As a cleric I admit to not knowing all that much about the shaman class(never having played one post 25-30ish).. however, what upsets me is the shamen who canni down for mana regen then expect me to put them on the top of the priority list for heals.... right, because their mana is necessarily more important than mine....Not saying mine's more important than theirs, but I manage my mana fine, they can as well...

Qutie!

focus of the seventh - 1800 mana (1 hour 20 minutes)
(khura's focusing - 1250 mana (1 hour 40 minutes))
talisman of the diaku - 525 mana (1 hour 3 minutes)
talisman of the boar - 525 mana (1 hour 3 minutes)
blessing of replenishment - 625 mana (20 minutes)
talisman of alacrity - 725 mana (36 minutes)

turgur's insects - 250 mana (once per mob)

vs.

hand of virtue - 2500 mana (2 hours 30 minutes)

Manage this

HASTE PLZ ~ HASTE PLZ ~ HASTE PLZ ~

[Grenoble]

Any worthy shaman who canni's down generally, depending on level, has stoicism/torpor/quiescence to bring it back up.

[QuteCleric]

That's a very simplistic few of a cleric's role in a group....

Simply stated, >I< am not responsible for a shaman's mana


Qutie!

[Noni DeeCups]

I guess the shaman could stop slowing the mobs till they regen mana and then you could waste more mana healing the tank. Or they could continue to do their job and you could do yours? a.k.a. Team Work.

[kittycatscratch]

I Have to agree I don't Melee unless I'm above 75 percent, or the kind and lovely hearted mage is giving me mod rods (*big evil grin*).


To the tank that forgot where his Taunt button was, and repeatedly pulled 8 mobs with no chanter.... I'm Sorry I must have Fizzled..... Oh and Whats with the no taunting before you break mez, granted its rooted... but still

Cheers to the Paladin for pac pulling and root pulling, and death to the wizard that breaks mez because she/he wants to AOE.

Calming pills to the Shammy that feels the need to hit every bitten victim, confused mutation, hollow tree, and Cursed Barrel they can find....and then complains becuase they have no mana.

Alot of love for the necros that twitch, mez and snare.

And then there are the people that go AFK for a half hour in a timed dungeon...

Gotta love that ;(

[kiztent]

Originally posted by Noni DeeCups
I guess the shaman could stop slowing the mobs till they regen mana and then you could waste more mana healing the tank. Or they could continue to do their job and you could do yours? a.k.a. Team Work.

Haha, darn it, I was going to say that. See how well you manage your mana without slow and speed.

For those of you keeping score at home, speed is 50 percent more DPS and slow is a 4 fold decrease in mob DPS.

That's 6 times the heals per mob.

hahahhahaha