Goodbye MMC, hello Rujarkian Hills

[Rewde]

Originally posted by Rewde
Sure. Let's implement the forage AA. This would bring a druids skill cap for foraging up to 400, at which time we would get a drop down menu when we hit our forage hotkey. Running around in WL, click forage, drop down menu pops up, "Ahhh, yes. I do need a Yew Leaf today", click on item and there you go, you have actually foraged what you were looking for.

OK. This was sarcasm.

I forage wherever I go. It is hotkey linked to my right turn. I have never sold anything I have foraged. I use most of the stuff myself, and if I can get things for people who need them, Lilosh and Nimphe for example, I will, and not charge for them. But, that is generally reserved for guildies and friends, also the acquantances from this board. So, If I can get something for you, let me know and I will try to do so, as long as we are on the same server.

[Minta Rose]

You can have feign death AA IF you are willing to sacrifice your life for a necro. That's the deal we made with our pets and how can we offer them less than we offer you? Also that may, however briefly, discourage people from thinking that an essence emerald is a small price to pay for service X. . .

[Itek]

Ok.... I just scrapped a long, sure to get the thread locked, or me banned, or both, post.

*big breath*

READ MY SIG.

ok... now...

READ IT _AGAIN_!

Now scroll back and read my post AGAIN.

SARCASM.

NastyChild: "Why do you charge 50pp for Morning Dew? You found it on the ground."
Itek-Druid: "Feel free to go spend 20 AA and you can forage all the morning dew you like for free."

Kinda would stop the old "foragers overcharge" complaints dead in their tracks now wouldn't it?

I DO NOT NEED, NOR WOULD I BUY, A FORAGE AA SKILL!!

Especially at the SILLY prices I suggested.

My point was that instead of bending our ears about it, which comes to no good, use the /feedback (which they DO read) command and try to get Forage for yourself. Or make a forage bot, whichever you think would be easier. (Might have failed to notice I also said the "would-be-foragers" would still have to run around clicking "Forage" buttons till the skill actually went up.)

[Stugein]

AA theory and availability issues aside, what makes those classes/races that can forage special? What about being a wood-elf druid enables one to better be able to look down and eye around for random items that may or may not be edible anymore than say, a human SK or a dwarven cleric? Maybe the plate armour lmits our scope of vision? We physically cannot look down? I think it is safe to say that most of our characters have spent the overwhelming majority of their time outdoors. You'd think that after running through a particular zone for the gajillionth you would at some point notice, "Well I'll be...that bush over there has berries on it."

Not trying to knock or insult and race/classes or combos, but really...how much skill does it really take to be able to bend down and pick random stuff up off the ground?

[Serenya]

Originally posted by Stugein

Not trying to knock or insult and race/classes or combos, but really...how much skill does it really take to be able to bend down and pick random stuff up off the ground?

Two skills are involved. One, the ability to get the stuff before you've crushed it, clumsy as most plate clad dwarves and human types are, never mind a troll or ogre. And two, the ability to recognize what you picked up, extremely unlikely for your average troll or ogre and not a good bet for your typical melee either.

/disclaimer I play a wood elf ranger. My main is a barbarian warrior, my other main is a dwarven cleric. I think forage fits well roleplaying-wise with the races/classes that got it, except for iksar which just doesn't work for me. Mostly because I think the foraging races should have an affinity for nature.

[Lilosh]

Originally posted by Serenya
And two, the ability to recognize what you picked up, extremely unlikely for your average troll or ogre and not a good bet for your typical melee either.

Bashar has zoned into the zone.
Bashar: "Ohh, Look! Pretty Berries!"
Bashers has died from poison.
LOADING, PLEASE WAIT.


-Lilosh

[Stugein]

Originally posted by Serenya
Two skills are involved. One, the ability to get the stuff before you've crushed it, clumsy as most plate clad dwarves and human types are, never mind a troll or ogre. And two, the ability to recognize what you picked up, extremely unlikely for your average troll or ogre and not a good bet for your typical melee either.

Originally posted by Lilosh
Bashar has zoned into the zone.
Bashar: "Ohh, Look! Pretty Berries!"
Bashers has died from poison.
LOADING, PLEASE WAIT.

Ok. But if you are going to take it down to an RP aspect, nothing says that all melee have to RP the "big like ox, strong like ox, smart like ox" unintelligent smasher stereotype or that all elves and druids have to RP cloud-hopping flower-sniffing tree-huggers.

I just think that when one spends the vast majority of their life outdoors you'd think they would eventually become aware of their surroundings over the years and maybe pick up a few "outdoor survival skills", whether they were born in Freeport, Cabilis, Neriak, Kelethin or otherwise. We can recognize that poisonous berry or those roots or peppers or whatever other objects are laying around that foragers have already picked up and then discarded on the ground, but we can't recognize them prior to that? What, do you all carry around label makers to tag stuff you don't want before dropping it?

[Lilosh]

Originally posted by Stugein
they would eventually become aware of their surroundings over the years and maybe pick up a few "outdoor survival skills", whether they were born in Freeport, Cabilis, Neriak, Kelethin or otherwise. We can recognize that poisonous berry or those roots or peppers or whatever other objects are laying around that foragers have already picked up and then discarded on the ground, but we can't recognize them prior to that?

Yes, and after years of watching the Monks in our groups Feign Death,we've watched their movements, and learned to do it for ourselves.

And we've watched the way that Warrior wear that big heavy plate armor,so we should pick that up too.

Oh, and Backstabbing isn't so Hard. :-)

OH! I want to dual wield! It can't be that hard to observe.


I'm simply saying that if we start letting characters pick up other classes skills, where does it stop?


-Lilosh

[Nhin Impious]

Lilosh writes,

I'm simply saying that if we start letting characters pick up other classes skills, where does it stop?

It stops when Druids are smart enough not to let on that THEY KNOW HOW TO REZ.

It's true.

Nhinx (not that kind of druid) Aphsion

[Velaraa]

I think forage fits well roleplaying-wise with the races/classes that got it, except for iksar which just doesn't work for me.

I assume the only reason Iksar were given the forage skill was that they were basically unable to shop anywhere outside Cabilis back when RoK was released, and they needed some way to get food/water other than beggings players for it when they weren't near home.

[tsbaity]

Re: Goodbye MMC, hello Rujarkian Hills

Originally posted by Stugein

lanys.Tinile tells serverwide.eqtraders; We hate you too.

Don't take this personally, she hates everyone...try being married to her

[NightGod]

I DO NOT NEED, NOR WOULD I BUY, A FORAGE AA SKILL!!

Especially at the SILLY prices I suggested.

I would, in a heartbeat =P

I'd buy it at twice the prices you listed